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convert Sep 25, 18 11:25 pm

JAL to start NRT to SEA
 
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7e140ff210.jpg
I noticed this sign at a dinner today. Looks like it is real!


JALPak Sep 25, 18 11:33 pm

Yes, they have just announced it today. Launch date is Mar 31 2019

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5khours Sep 26, 18 5:27 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 30246334)
Yes, they have just announced it today. Launch date is Mar 31 2019

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Yeay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Single_Flyer Sep 26, 18 4:04 pm

And we get the better Lie Flat Sky Suites!

RaginPlainsman Sep 26, 18 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by Single_Flyer (Post 30249688)
And we get the better Lie Flat Sky Suites!

Even better!

Short article in the Seattle Times for those of us who can't read that press release. :)

Japan Airlines to join ANA and Delta in 2019 offering Seattle-Tokyo service

"The new daily service on Boeing 787-8 aircraft will leave Narita airport each day at 6 p.m. and, because of the time shift, arrive at 11 a.m. in Seattle the same day after a 9-hour flight. Flights from Seattle will leave at 2:20 p.m. and arrive in Tokyo at 4:30 p.m. the next day."

musashino22 Sep 26, 18 7:39 pm

Seems like a new config will be deployed to the NRT-SEA as per the press conference.

https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/156541 (Japanese Only)

PE (total 35 seats) on rows 17-21 will be eliminated and will only be a 2-Class config on SkySuite (APEX) while Y would still stay 8-abreast.
JAL will do reconfig work on some existing 10 SS8 frames according to the report.

Single_Flyer Sep 26, 18 7:58 pm

It will be interesting to just have Business and Economy (though a good Economy). I'm hoping that with the competition from SEA-NRT (Delta, ANA, JAL), we will see some pricing wars. Maybe even a sub-$400 ticket from time to time.

Also, did I read some place that it will switch to HND sometime in the future?

musashino22 Sep 26, 18 9:15 pm


Originally Posted by Single_Flyer (Post 30250326)
It will be interesting to just have Business and Economy (though a good Economy). I'm hoping that with the competition from SEA-NRT (Delta, ANA, JAL), we will see some pricing wars. Maybe even a sub-$400 ticket from time to time.

Also, did I read some place that it will switch to HND sometime in the future?

Japanese Forums are mentioning it will be C38Y156 config
New slots at Haneda will be decided next year for 2020 implementation and JL might apply for it but then it depends if it will be approved by J-Gov or not so we'll see.

CPH-Flyer Sep 26, 18 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by musashino22 (Post 30250521)
Japanese Forums are mentioning it will be C38Y156 config
New slots at Haneda will be decided next year for 2020 implementation and JL might apply for it but then it depends if it will be approved by J-Gov or not so we'll see.

156 Y and 38 J does not really leave spaxe for the APEX suite. The original NEO version had 144 Y, so it would need a full row plus two half a row some where, yet the 38 seat APEX cabin takes more space than the NEO cabin. So I would guess it it would be the reverse herringbone sky suites that will come to these routes.

JALPak Sep 26, 18 11:47 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 30250787)
156 Y and 38 J does not really leave spaxe for the APEX suite. The original NEO version had 144 Y, so it would need a full row plus two half a row some where, yet the 38 seat APEX cabin takes more space than the NEO cabin. So I would guess it it would be the reverse herringbone sky suites that will come to these routes.

JAL is already advertising this with the SKY SUITE and SKY WIDER seats so it will most likely be the APEX seats

CPH-Flyer Sep 27, 18 12:11 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 30250842)

JAL is already advertising this with the SKY SUITE and SKY WIDER seats so it will most likely be the APEX seats

Maybe just less than 38J Remind me, who many seats in the reduced J NEO configuration....

JALPak Sep 27, 18 12:13 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 30250900)
Maybe just less than 38J Remind me, who many seats in the reduced J NEO configuration....

why do you keep referencing NEO lol. The rumored new config has exactly the same number of SS seat as the current SS8 LOL

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/787.html

Anyway E03 (reduces NEO) has 30C 176Y

CPH-Flyer Sep 27, 18 12:30 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 30250905)

why do you keep referencing NEO lol. The rumored new config has exactly the same number of SS seat as the current SS8 LOL

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/aircraft/conf/787.html

Anyway E03 (reduces NEO) has 30C 176Y

Because the NEO config has no PY cabin so it gives a good indication of what that space that gives in terms of extra Y seats. I know galley and lavatory are located differently as well. But since the can get the same number of rows from 45 and back wards on the SS version and the NEO version, NEO is a good reference point to understand how many Y seats go there.

That added to the DS8 space needed for 38 seats, something has to give way....

JALPak Sep 27, 18 12:37 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 30250938)
Because the NEO config has no PY cabin so it gives a good indication of what that space that gives in terms of extra Y seats. I know galley and lavatory are located differently as well. But since the can get the same number of rows from 45 and back wards on the SS version and the NEO version, NEO is a good reference point to understand how many Y seats go there.

That added to the DS8 space needed for 38 seats, something has to give way....

but the space needed for SS seats arenít the same. E01 is actually a closer reference. The C cabin goes all the way to mid wing just like SS8. I will still minus a few rows from that though.

rustykettel Sep 27, 18 12:54 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 30250938)
But since the can get the same number of rows from 45 and back wards on the SS version and the NEO version, NEO is a good reference point to understand how many Y seats go there.

So is the added pitch in SS Y mostly from slimlined seats then? It looks from the seatmaps on JAL's site that SS Y stretches back just slight further at Row 55 (along with adding a row in the center section with the bulkhead pushed forward).


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