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Old Aug 21, 2018, 2:20 am
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Flight frequency and fleet plan changes for FY2018 and FY2019
http://press.jal.co.jp/ja/release/201808/004844.html

NRT-HNL JL7856/785 SS6 -> SS9II (Dec 1 2018 - Jan 5 2019)
NRT-HNL JL782/789 SS9II -> SS7 with F service (Dec 28 2018 - Jan 5 2019)
NRT-HKG JL735/736
  • 788 -> SS6 (Dec 1 2018 - Jan 31 2019)
  • SS6 -> SS2 (Feb 1 - 28 2019)
HND-TSA
  • JL097/098 787-8 -> 777-200ER from Dec 26 2018
  • JL009/096 767-300ER -> 777-200ER from Mar 21 2019
NGO-HNL JL794/793 SS2 -> SS9II from Jan 6 2019
NRT-MNL JL745/746 SS6 -> SS8 from Feb 1 2019
NRT-PUS
  • JL969/960 737-800 -> SS6 (Feb 1 - Mar 25 2019)
  • JL957/958 737-800 -> SS6 (Feb 2 - Mar 25 2019)
KIX-HNL JL792/791 SS2 -> SS9II from Mar 20 2019
NRT-ORD daily -> 11x weekly (Jun 8 - Sep 3 2019) additional flights will be operated with SS8
KIX-LAX JL060/069 787-8 -> SS9II from Mar 31 2019
KIX-TPE 14x -> 7x weekly with JL813/816 suspended from Mar 31 2019
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 2:23 am
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I wonder if JAL will get rid of the discounted upgrade on LAX-KIX with this upgrade. Given it's the horrible SS III seats, I am hoping the discount will stay.
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 5:09 am
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Would KIX LAX change not trigger a similar change on other routes, that routes used to be part of a quite complex pattern of flights for the air frames....

Considering the route gains a fair amount of J seats, that should help the discounted upgrade to stick.
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 6:45 am
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Seems Taiwan <-> KIX route is a bit over supply.
I got two awards seats on JL816, not difficult to redeem due to two JL daily flights.
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
Would KIX LAX change not trigger a similar change on other routes, that routes used to be part of a quite complex pattern of flights for the air frames....

Considering the route gains a fair amount of J seats, that should help the discounted upgrade to stick.
like kix tpe losing a daily turn?
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by kaka

like kix tpe losing a daily turn?
More that a flow like NRT-BKK-KIX-TPE-KIX-LAX-KIX-BKK-NRT seems to be quite normal for an airframe So either JAL changes the scheduling patterns dramatically, or the change will affect far more routes....
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
Would KIX LAX change not trigger a similar change on other routes, that routes used to be part of a quite complex pattern of flights for the air frames....

Considering the route gains a fair amount of J seats, that should help the discounted upgrade to stick.
actually i think it is losing 2 business class seats. I suspect JL will be using E92 which only has 28 SSII Seats on this route.

they probably will change the rotation. See how KIX-HNL will be SS9II too?
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 11:57 am
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Cutting 787+738 to just 738 seems like an overkill for TPE, but KIX-LAX being upgraded is a good move.

I think the discount will likely continue cause now there is even less flights to do direct connections via KIX to LAX.
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 9:27 pm
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The flights for the additional ORD rotation is v interesting:

JL8056 NRT-ORD 5:55p - 3:55p x257
JL8055 ORD-NRT 1:00p - 3:55p+1 x136

apparenly that 788 will be staying in Chicago for almost 24hrs...
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 9:46 pm
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also isn’t 777-200ER (almost) same as SS2? from what I can recall all 772 fleet (except JA709J for now) are lie flat. can we safely assume the TSA flights are lie flat by the time of ac change?
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by JALOO5-Flyer
also isn’t 777-200ER (almost) same as SS2? from what I can recall all 772 fleet (except JA709J for now) are lie flat. can we safely assume the TSA flights are lie flat by the time of ac change?
No, 777-200ER listed above means shell flat only
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By the way, still no new route
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Originally Posted by JALPak

actually i think it is losing 2 business class seats. I suspect JL will be using E92 which only has 28 SSII Seats on this route.

they probably will change the rotation. See how KIX-HNL will be SS9II too?
Yeah, I was somehow thinking of SSIII not II. Too many skysuite types. ... Haha

Though they still need to do some massaging of the rotations.

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By the way, still no new route
I noticed. Disappointing.
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Old Aug 21, 2018, 11:39 pm
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Yeah, I was somehow thinking of SSIII not II. Too many skysuite types. ... Haha

Though they still need to do some massaging of the rotations.



I noticed. Disappointing.
actually it’s my typo and they are SSIII seats on SS9II LOL They have a SS9II config with less Business (SSIII seats) and Premium Economy seats now.

probably NGO-HNL can be added to the rotation too (don’t quote me I haven’t checked the schedule )

if SEA rumor is true, we should see the announcement in a few months, assuming they want to start in early summer 2019 schedule
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Originally Posted by JALPak

actually it’s my typo and they are SSIII seats on SS9II LOL They have a SS9II config with less Business (SSIII seats) and Premium Economy seats now.

probably NGO-HNL can be added to the rotation too (don’t quote me I haven’t checked the schedule )

if SEA rumor is true, we should see the announcement in a few months, assuming they want to start in early summer 2019 schedule
If it is Seattle I'll probably still be a tad disappointed Interestingly, Delta does not seem to take action on their "threats" of cancelling PDX NRT. Might give an effect to the decision as well.
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