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JAL to announce new medium term management plan with new routes on Apr 28 2017

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Old Apr 2, 2017, 7:40 pm
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JAL to announce new medium term management plan with new routes on Apr 28 2017
http://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/116272

According to aviation wire, the new medium term management plan will be announced on Apr 28 2017. The plan will focus on growth in both quality and scale in operation, service, equipment and network.
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 7:45 pm
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Any speculation on the new routes? NRT-TLV? NRT-MIA? NRT-MAD?
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 8:42 pm
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Any speculation on the new routes? NRT-TLV? NRT-MIA? NRT-MAD?
With Iberia just starting on MAD, MIA is probably a more likely guess. TLV was already suggested rather publicly, so that is probably I good guess as well.

I would like to see some more European routes. The problem is with the number of OW hubs in Europe connectivity is not going to be great within the alliance from most possible destinations.

How many new planes are to be delivered in 2017 and 2018 to support the expansions?
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 10:01 pm
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With Iberia just starting on MAD, MIA is probably a more likely guess. TLV was already suggested rather publicly, so that is probably I good guess as well.

I would like to see some more European routes. The problem is with the number of OW hubs in Europe connectivity is not going to be great within the alliance from most possible destinations.

How many new planes are to be delivered in 2017 and 2018 to support the expansions?
Not much.

Here's the delivery schedule for 787-9...there could be more scheduled for 2018 but that's what 787 site shows right now.
2/1/2017
3/23/2017
7/18/2017
9/26/2017
11/15/2017
4/23/2018

Wonder if JAL will announce any fleet expansion as part of the medium term plan.
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 10:20 pm
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Not much.

Here's the delivery schedule for 787-9...there could be more scheduled for 2018 but that's what 787 site shows right now.
2/1/2017
3/23/2017
7/18/2017
9/26/2017
11/15/2017
4/23/2018

Wonder if JAL will announce any fleet expansion as part of the medium term plan.
According to Boeing, JAL has 13 787-9 outstanding right now. So another 8 or 9 coming at some point. Depending if the Mar 23 delivery is already counted or not. Most likely in 2018. But if we roughly two planes per route added, that is still 6 new routes to be launched over the next 1.5 years or so.
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
According to Boeing, JAL has 13 787-9 outstanding right now. So another 8 or 9 coming at some point. Depending if the Mar 23 delivery is already counted or not. Most likely in 2018. But if we roughly two planes per route added, that is still 6 new routes to be launched over the next 1.5 years or so.
Pretty sure the Mar delivery hasn't been counted. Only the Feb one. So 12 more to be delivered.

Don't forget there are frequency changes too. KIX-HNL goes 2x daily from Apr, NRT-HNL will further increase to 35 weekly from Apr 26, NRT-DME will go daily from Jul.

I don't think we will see that many new routes over the next 1.5 years. Probably will see a way more conservative expansion with 1-2 new routes only. But we may see more rapid expansion when A350-900 starts arriving in 2019 and with Tokyo 2020 expansion.
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Old Apr 2, 2017, 11:58 pm
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Pretty sure the Mar delivery hasn't been counted. Only the Feb one. So 12 more to be delivered.

Don't forget there are frequency changes too. KIX-HNL goes 2x daily from Apr, NRT-HNL will further increase to 35 weekly from Apr 26, NRT-DME will go daily from Jul.

I don't think we will see that many new routes over the next 1.5 years. Probably will see a way more conservative expansion with 1-2 new routes only. But we may see more rapid expansion when A350-900 starts arriving in 2019 and with Tokyo 2020 expansion.
But the two Honolulu changes should already be from the existing fleet, as nothing more is delivered before that goes in to effect. So there is still a fair amount of lift coming that they need to place somewhere.
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Old Apr 3, 2017, 12:57 am
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But the two Honolulu changes should already be from the existing fleet, as nothing more is delivered before that goes in to effect. So there is still a fair amount of lift coming that they need to place somewhere.
Or that's from what the Mar and Feb delivery freed up on other routes?
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Old Apr 3, 2017, 2:19 am
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Or that's from what the Mar and Feb delivery freed up on other routes?
Which should then leave 12 for DME upgrade and new routes. Unless they are retiring some planes, or shuffling the non-SS8 away from long haul.
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Old Apr 3, 2017, 2:50 am
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Which should then leave 12 for DME upgrade and new routes. Unless they are retiring some planes, or shuffling the non-SS8 away from long haul.
Quite possible. Probably some of those 767 with SKYLUXE? Do they still exist? LOL
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What are the likelihood of JL starting some non-coastal US flights? It already has plenty of coastal reach. Would JL try to go for market NH already has or more unique ones?
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What are the likelihood of JL starting some non-coastal US flights? It already has plenty of coastal reach. Would JL try to go for market NH already has or more unique ones?
There could be a potential of connecting with AA in Phoenix. Unless there is a fairly big O&D potential, it is probably AA hubs or big focus cities that would be on the agenda.

I don't know if Delta has officially withdrawn from PDX NRT, then that could be as well.

South America connecting through somewhere?
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Old Apr 3, 2017, 8:00 am
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I thought new 789s are letting 767s go either domestic or UPS. Wonder if JAL has a room for much growth in the short term.

UPS purchases 3 767s possibly from JAL:
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewt...0827#p19450827
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Old Apr 3, 2017, 9:23 am
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PDX-NRT is a no brainer, especially with the AS partnership now and DL on the exit from PDX-NRT.
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PDX-HND please!
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