JAL award availability
Aug 8, 2017, 10:49 am
#451
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Aug 8, 2017, 11:29 am
#452
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JL will only make the booking for you if you have enough miles
Aug 8, 2017, 11:53 am
#453
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Aug 8, 2017, 2:52 pm
#454
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Does JAL hold an award at all? NO
And must you have points in your account to do so? YES
http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use/...plication.html
Reminders When Requesting Awards
At the time of making the reservation, you must already have in your JMB account the total amount of mileage that is needed for the award. If you do not have enough miles, you will not be able to make a reservation.
Aug 8, 2017, 2:57 pm
#455
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That is generally true, though with a caveat that JL does hold award tickets, IF there is a confirmed flight along with a waitlisted flight on the same PNR (JL won't ticket it until all flights are confirmed, which means that in effect the confirmed flight is held without ticketing while waiting for the WL one to confirm), and only IF you have enough miles in the account for what it will cost if confirmed (if not, no way to waitlist it in the first place).
So yes, JL never holds award tickets if there are not enough miles. If there are enough miles, however, it will hold a confirmed flight alongside a waitlisted one.
So yes, JL never holds award tickets if there are not enough miles. If there are enough miles, however, it will hold a confirmed flight alongside a waitlisted one.
Aug 10, 2017, 6:19 am
#456
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I'd like to get a seat on a JAL flight using AA miles from HND-SFO anywhere from the 19th through the 23rd, at the latest. I see some availability in J on the 23rd, but I'd prefer to sit in Y, as this is a flight I'm not too excited about using miles for in the first place, so would like to waste as few as possible.
For now, I have a hold on an itinerary on the 24th to SFO in Y, but what are the chances another Y seat becomes available before then? I'm unfamiliar with JAL's last minute release schedule, if they even have one.
For now, I have a hold on an itinerary on the 24th to SFO in Y, but what are the chances another Y seat becomes available before then? I'm unfamiliar with JAL's last minute release schedule, if they even have one.
Aug 10, 2017, 8:34 am
#457
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You have 40,000miles.
You request a waitlist for A->B on date D1 (30,000 miles required)
Then, you request a waitlist for C->D on date D2 (30,000 miles required).
Aug 10, 2017, 8:46 am
#458
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I'd like to get a seat on a JAL flight using AA miles from HND-SFO anywhere from the 19th through the 23rd, at the latest. I see some availability in J on the 23rd, but I'd prefer to sit in Y, as this is a flight I'm not too excited about using miles for in the first place, so would like to waste as few as possible.
For now, I have a hold on an itinerary on the 24th to SFO in Y, but what are the chances another Y seat becomes available before then? I'm unfamiliar with JAL's last minute release schedule, if they even have one.
For now, I have a hold on an itinerary on the 24th to SFO in Y, but what are the chances another Y seat becomes available before then? I'm unfamiliar with JAL's last minute release schedule, if they even have one.
Aug 10, 2017, 8:47 am
#459
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They would know. If done properly, there should be notation in your account that you've waitlisted on the first itinerary.
Aug 10, 2017, 11:35 am
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The key is the dates have to be different. Sadly you cannot waitlist A->Z and B->Z on the same date, even if you are flexible and can leave from one or another co-terminal airport.
Aug 10, 2017, 2:53 pm
#461
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But regardless, I'll be on JAL metal from Japan to SFO. I just would like to know if JAL releases last minute Y, or should I just take what I've gotten? I'm sure I'd be directed here if I asked that on the AA forum.
EDIT: JAL availability is usually the same as partner availability, isn't that correct?
EDIT: JAL availability is usually the same as partner availability, isn't that correct?
Last edited by Habbit; Aug 10, 2017 at 3:12 pm
Aug 10, 2017, 4:18 pm
#462
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But regardless, I'll be on JAL metal from Japan to SFO. I just would like to know if JAL releases last minute Y, or should I just take what I've gotten? I'm sure I'd be directed here if I asked that on the AA forum.
EDIT: JAL availability is usually the same as partner availability, isn't that correct?
EDIT: JAL availability is usually the same as partner availability, isn't that correct?
Aug 15, 2017, 11:25 am
#464
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Cannot ticket until all the flights clear, correct. The flights being 2 months apart, there is a high probability that if one clears (outbound) the return will not before the hold expiry date - 82 days prior to the first flight. WL may clear at around 90 days out, and then closer in. So even if your outbound clears, your return flight won't. If you book it as two separate one ways, the chance is higher that both may clear before 82 days out (as for how good of a chance depends on your route and dates and many factors that we are not privy to).
Also if you do it as two one ways, the one (or both) that didn't clear, you can keep rebooking every 7 days, as WLs are only held for 7 days if booked 8-89 days out. Though you could also do that for a round trip, but the chances are that the confirmed outbound will be booked by someone else before your return clears, and you'll need to rebook it at close to the exact time the reservation is dropped by JL every week.
Ref. https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...plication.html
Also if you do it as two one ways, the one (or both) that didn't clear, you can keep rebooking every 7 days, as WLs are only held for 7 days if booked 8-89 days out. Though you could also do that for a round trip, but the chances are that the confirmed outbound will be booked by someone else before your return clears, and you'll need to rebook it at close to the exact time the reservation is dropped by JL every week.
Ref. https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...plication.html
Aug 15, 2017, 11:56 am
#465
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Only way to keep it is to ticket it. Cannot keep it confirmed but unticketed past the deadline. If I was you, I would call and ask them to drop (remove) the waitlisted segment and ticket the confirmed flight as one way. Then just do a new one-way waitlist for the other flight, though of course that will push down your waitlist priority if it's a multiple pax waitlisting situation. Or you can ask if they can they keep it at its current priority and split the PNR apart (not sure if they can).