JAL - Hot Cabin
#331
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After flying F JFK-NRT-HKG, and not being able to sleep because of the temperature, I'll never fly JL again. I complained to the FA, who told me other passengers wouldn't like the temp down and gave me cold bottles of water. After I wrote a letter, they told me it's policy to keep the cabin at 76 degrees Fahrenheit. That's right, 76 degrees!
I just passed up on a JL F award HKG-NRT-LAX because I cannot imagine flying on such a hot plane for 14 hours.
I just passed up on a JL F award HKG-NRT-LAX because I cannot imagine flying on such a hot plane for 14 hours.
#332
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
Posts: 9,454
Thats 24.5C in normal measurement.. crazy! I would probably decide to sleep Justin Ross Lee style in such climate
Honestly, JAL, keep your cabins at decent temperatures. If you're cold you can add a blanket. But you don't want your passengers to sleep naked because you prefer to be a flying Sauna, do you?
Honestly, JAL, keep your cabins at decent temperatures. If you're cold you can add a blanket. But you don't want your passengers to sleep naked because you prefer to be a flying Sauna, do you?
#333
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This is what I've been saying forever! Supposedly Japanese people tend be cold, as my local Japanese friend told me. But you can always add layers when you are cold. You can't add any layers when it's as hot as hell, aside from getting naked! I dam n near took all my clothes off. Instead I fanned myself all the way to Tokyo with the menu. JAL's cabin temperture is Ridiculous. I don't understand why this isn't an issue with other Asian airlines.
#334
Join Date: Feb 2001
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It seems to be a Japanese thing. I'm surprised there isn't a similar thread on the All Nippon board. I've been on NH planes which have been 26-27C. Ways I've kept cool have included dropping ice cubes down my back and standing outside the galley for long periods, where it's much cooler.
#335
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It seems to be a Japanese thing. I'm surprised there isn't a similar thread on the All Nippon board. I've been on NH planes which have been 26-27C. Ways I've kept cool have included dropping ice cubes down my back and standing outside the galley for long periods, where it's much cooler.
I'm just steering clear of JL. They have lost my business.
#336
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ORD (formerly SAN)
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#337
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: KHH, FUK, SNA
Programs: BR, UA 1k, CX
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This is what I've been saying forever! Supposedly Japanese people tend be cold, as my local Japanese friend told me. But you can always add layers when you are cold. You can't add any layers when it's as hot as hell, aside from getting naked! I dam n near took all my clothes off. Instead I fanned myself all the way to Tokyo with the menu. JAL's cabin temperture is Ridiculous. I don't understand why this isn't an issue with other Asian airlines.
One thing I will say, I split time between Southern California and Taiwan/Japan/China. It used to be I felt hot in Taiwan were I am the most (many years ago), but now I feel somewhat cold in coastal California when I home there, so I think its partly what your body adjusts to. Japanese and many Asians (not all) seem prefer warmer and humid temps, and JAL that is their main customer base (ie Japanese, then I guess non Japanese would be Chinese, other Asians ect.) so temps are set at what most of their customers want and think is healthy and comfortable.
#338
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: DL DM, US CP
Posts: 237
I just got off two JL flights (one in C from HAN-NRT in the SS8 SkySuite and one in F from NRT-JFK). I have to say I was really worried going in, since I'm the sort of person to turn off my heat in NYC right before I go to sleep even in the winter because I get too hot even on the lowest setting, but I had no issues on either flight. I actually needed my blanket on both flights because I got cold. Admittedly I wore gym shorts and a t-shirt on the HAN-NRT leg since no pajamas were provided and I didn't put on the pajama top given in JL F, but I almost never put on long sleeved shirts to sleep in. I think it might just be a YMMV situation combined with the lack of vents to regulate if they do set the temps too high.
#339
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Posts: 836
I just got off two JL flights (one in C from HAN-NRT in the SS8 SkySuite and one in F from NRT-JFK). I have to say I was really worried going in, since I'm the sort of person to turn off my heat in NYC right before I go to sleep even in the winter because I get too hot even on the lowest setting, but I had no issues on either flight. I actually needed my blanket on both flights because I got cold. Admittedly I wore gym shorts and a t-shirt on the HAN-NRT leg since no pajamas were provided and I didn't put on the pajama top given in JL F, but I almost never put on long sleeved shirts to sleep in. I think it might just be a YMMV situation combined with the lack of vents to regulate if they do set the temps too high.
#340
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Maybe they finally took the hint (or read this thread) and decided to lower the temperature to something reasonable. I sure hope this is the case, because I actually like JAL products and the service, but can't go if the temperature is what it has been in the past.
#342
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 612
I have flown long haul JAL three times in the past year; twice in J, once in F.
The two times in J, I was in a window seat and the temperature was perfect, cold even. One was on the newer 787 and once on the 777.
The only time in F, my significant other and I were in the middle seats, and I definitely found it warm, though my SO did not. She prefers warmer temperatures however.
The two times in J, I was in a window seat and the temperature was perfect, cold even. One was on the newer 787 and once on the 777.
The only time in F, my significant other and I were in the middle seats, and I definitely found it warm, though my SO did not. She prefers warmer temperatures however.
#343
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,053
Just coming off four sectors HKG-JFK in J.
Return short haul was borderline unbearable, both long hauls were okay. Really just okay though, although i have to admit i do like my cabin cold.
There was a young Japanese lady on NRT-HKG who put on two (!) sweaters and woolen socks. It was 26 degrees easy in there.
Was my first time on JAL and while it wasn't as bad as I feared, it wasn't as acceptable as I hoped it would be. Cabin temp continues to be a relevant component when deciding whether or not to fly JL
Return short haul was borderline unbearable, both long hauls were okay. Really just okay though, although i have to admit i do like my cabin cold.
There was a young Japanese lady on NRT-HKG who put on two (!) sweaters and woolen socks. It was 26 degrees easy in there.
Was my first time on JAL and while it wasn't as bad as I feared, it wasn't as acceptable as I hoped it would be. Cabin temp continues to be a relevant component when deciding whether or not to fly JL
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#344
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Just coming off four sectors HKG-JFK in J.
Return short haul was borderline unbearable, both long hauls were okay. Really just okay though, although i have to admit i do like my cabin cold.
There was a young Japanese lady on NRT-HKG who put on two (!) sweaters and woolen socks. It was 26 degrees easy in there.
Was my first time on JAL and while it wasn't as bad as I feared, it wasn't as acceptable as I hoped it would be. Cabin temp continues to be a relevant component when deciding whether or not to fly JL
Return short haul was borderline unbearable, both long hauls were okay. Really just okay though, although i have to admit i do like my cabin cold.
There was a young Japanese lady on NRT-HKG who put on two (!) sweaters and woolen socks. It was 26 degrees easy in there.
Was my first time on JAL and while it wasn't as bad as I feared, it wasn't as acceptable as I hoped it would be. Cabin temp continues to be a relevant component when deciding whether or not to fly JL
#345
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ORD (formerly SAN)
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Similar situation with me. Flew JAL F for the first time ORD-NRT-NGO and NRT-ORD for the first time. The ex-US flight was borderline acceptable - but I had (tried to) pack accordingly and brought my own battery operated desk fan. So while not entirely comfortable, it could have been much worse for me without the fan. The ex-Japan flight was much much worse. I was flushed and sweating profusely even with the fan...and after awhile, had to ask the FA to turn down the temp. I think she could see the sweat dripping down my face and agreed. It was back to the barely tolerable state. This coupled with some service shortcomings, I will be sticking with CX (despite the hands down better food on JL).