fumitani

When room temp is above 25 or 26 i forget...studies have shown that work speed and work quality drops because someone is fighting the hot weather instead of working efficiently...

JAL's airplane temp of 28c is just plain hot! last year doing ITM-HND runs...I was sweating at the airport sweating on the plane (still not dry after 1 hr).....

28c is just not a realistic setting...same thing with doing 18c in winter...it's not realistic

Unimatrix One

In 9 years of flying JL (as an obvious foreigner) I've never encountered racism. I also find it incredibly hard to believe that they only cater enough meals for 70% to 80% of passengers in business class, as one person here said. In all my business class flights, I've never seen anyone not get ANY main course. My guess is there was a catering error in the case of the person who did not receive a meal.

Anyway, a similar thing to the OP's experience happened to me once on ANA, where I was one of the first passengers to order, and only after taking everyone else's order did the FA come to me to tell me they ran out of my choice. I wasn't pleased, but I just assumed it was because I had no status at the time and ANA was prioritizing its own elites. Racism never entered my mind as a possibility.

JALPak

Especially on regional day time flight like HND-HKG. I don't think they would expect 20% of the passengers choose not to have meal service. And starting meal service couple hours after SFO departure doesn't sound right to me either. They usually start service right the way after the seatbelt sign has turned off.

kaka

if you know the physics of a plane you'd know that the temperature bears no effect to how much energy is required to heat up a plane.

btw, ANA keeps their cabin nice and cool. and serves v decent food. like rice with crab meat, not some brown liquid a la ex NRT JAL.

and, boeing lied. you take cold air from outside and mix with the hot air.

JALPak

Guys, let's try to stay more on topic, shall we? Thank you!

kaka

im very much being on topic. it's you who steered off.
i did not start talking about boeing engines sucking in cold air and airconditioning it cold.
what i talked about was JL is totally being racist that they've put on a cute FA just for my service who fed me during meals and refilled my drinks before the glass was empty, even during my overnight transit. I was totally WOWed by JL's service and they are absolutely the best for treating Canadians.

HOWEVER, having a warm cabin is definately not right.

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grahampros

Yeah, it's highly unlikely only catering to to even 80% is true in J or even Y. We know how inaccurate this sorts of information is from crews. It's true that errors can happen, but as policy, i doubt.

Unimatrix One

This thread reminds me of something that happened on a NW flight many years ago. I was in business class in the upper deck of a 747-200 NRT-SFO. The FA, while taking meal orders, skipped the person sitting next to me. Only after taking everyone else's order did she come back to the woman next to me and take her order. I was shocked at such an obvious snub and actually became a bit angry on behalf of the woman next to me! I started speculating on why the FA would treat her so badly, was it sexism, etc.

Only long after the flight did it occur to me that my seatmate was probably a non-rev.

My point is that we shouldn't jump to conclusions about racism or any other sinister reasons... there could be a perfectly sensible explanation (such as prioritizing status pax, etc.).

JALPak

^^

Op-up can also be an explanation too

Simmo

Can we change the title of this thread to something more PC or something than the current title is a little strongly worded.

siliconflyer

Agree Kix. When outside is -50C as is at cruising altitude, bringing upto 28C is less "eco" than say 23C.

daniellam

FA: "What would you like to eat"
Pax: "I must have the Japanese meal"

Simmo

Yep. That`s not racist but rather discrimination against those that are hot! It`s the classic you can`t cool yourself down but it`s easy to get warm with blankets etc.

Tak - what do you think?

Tak

When I took United, I always brought something to make me warm.
I felt it was too cold.
I would say most Japanese prefer warmer temp in the air.
Therefore, JAL set up the temp for Japanese who are the majority passengers .
I feel sorry for non Japanese who prefer the colder temp.

The temp in the air is not related to eco/energy.
In my opinion, It is strictly the preference by Japanese .

The office temp is the different story.
There was the law/guidance that office temp should be between 17C and 28C.
After the energy crisis by the Tsunami, the government requested that temp shall be 28C (highest temp by the guidance) to save energy.