Jun 26, 2018, 12:52 pm
Last edit by: Tokyoite
Corona related JAL announcements page link.
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.A: Yes. written here (link) A. Definitely, within the lounge access rules of course. written here (link)
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.
1. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. NGO-HNL is booked in business class, but HND-NGO is in economy. Will we still get the baggage allowance as if we're flying business class the whole way?
2. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. Will we have lounge access in HND?
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Mar 4, 2019, 12:39 am
#2791
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Are you sure that the Chase UR portal is booking into the exact fare class as the JAL site?
Mar 4, 2019, 3:27 am
#2792
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Japan
Programs: NH Diamond, JL JGC Diamond, BA Gold Guest List(Gold for life), CX Diamond
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And, you can carry large amout of liquid on board.
Though I ended up booking an Avios redemption to travel a day later at 7500 Avios + $3.xx taxes, I am curious to learn the mechanism booking Japan domestic flights as well as whether the price we see is the final price without any add-on.
Some domestic routes have ZERO tax. So, Avios booking engine can't handle 0.00(USD) for credit card authorization stage.
In that case, you may call BA executive club (no handling charge), or make a donation (1JPY?) for credit card authorisation.
Another odd thing is, it also offers NH flights at the IDENTICAL USD as the JL fares but on NH own site, the fares are different in USD. still lower than UR/Expedia. I cannot tell what the native currency fares due to NH shows USD pricing.
For exdample, HND-ITM on 1st April,
discount fare (50% cancelation charge, no change)
JL101 0630 0735 8850JPY
NH985 0625 0730 8850JPY
NH13 0700 0805 8850JPY
JL103 0730 0835 12250JPY
NH15 0800 0905 12250JPY
JL107 0830 0935 12250JPY
NH17 0900 1010 12250JPY
....
Mar 4, 2019, 1:02 pm
#2793
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Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
There is ONLY ONE fare on JL site, other than you can add 1000 JPY to be in "Classic J" .
The Chase portal is straight economy.
Mar 4, 2019, 1:09 pm
#2794
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You may realize a cancellation fee is only that $3.xx tax.
Some domestic routes have ZERO tax. So, Avios booking engine can't handle 0.00(USD) for credit card authorization stage.
In that case, you may call BA executive club (no handling charge), or make a donation (1JPY?) for credit card authorisation..
Some domestic routes have ZERO tax. So, Avios booking engine can't handle 0.00(USD) for credit card authorization stage.
In that case, you may call BA executive club (no handling charge), or make a donation (1JPY?) for credit card authorisation..
Have seen the 0 tax issues although not for intra Japan flights.
I learned about the error message but not realize you can make a donation to make it work (i.e. chargeable hence the system works instead of having to call in to book.)
That is a good trick!
Yes, basically same price for major routes.
For exdample, HND-ITM on 1st April,
discount fare (50% cancelation charge, no change)
JL101 0630 0735 8850JPY
NH985 0625 0730 8850JPY
NH13 0700 0805 8850JPY
JL103 0730 0835 12250JPY
NH15 0800 0905 12250JPY
JL107 0830 0935 12250JPY
NH17 0900 1010 12250JPY
....
For exdample, HND-ITM on 1st April,
discount fare (50% cancelation charge, no change)
JL101 0630 0735 8850JPY
NH985 0625 0730 8850JPY
NH13 0700 0805 8850JPY
JL103 0730 0835 12250JPY
NH15 0800 0905 12250JPY
JL107 0830 0935 12250JPY
NH17 0900 1010 12250JPY
....
NH has more flights on this shuttle route than JL and the late afternoon flights are more expensive understanbly.
Mar 4, 2019, 2:13 pm
#2795
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
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Posts: 5,336
As an example of this, looking at 4/26 JL3009 NRT-ITM, JAL will sell it as a JPY10100/~92USD Sakitoku Type B while Google Flight's alternative skyticket is selling the same flight as a ~127USD Tokubin Type 21.
JAL's fare tool shows the pricing per flight and per fare class for their public domestic fares:
https://www.5971.jal.co.jp/eng/FareList.do
Consumption tax appears to be included in the amounts but not originating and terminating passenger facility fees.
Mar 4, 2019, 2:40 pm
#2796
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While there may be only one price displayed, look down at the lower left side when selecting the flight and cabin for the fare (usually one of the various Tokubin or Sakitoku fares) to see what JAL is selling on, then compare that to the Chase UR (assuming they can display the native JAL fare, and aren't using a special consolidator or restricted fare).
As an example of this, looking at 4/26 JL3009 NRT-ITM, JAL will sell it as a JPY10100/~92USD Sakitoku Type B while Google Flight's alternative skyticket is selling the same flight as a ~127USD Tokubin Type 21.
JAL's fare tool shows the pricing per flight and per fare class for their public domestic fares:
https://www.5971.jal.co.jp/eng/FareList.do
Consumption tax appears to be included in the amounts but not originating and terminating passenger facility fees.
As an example of this, looking at 4/26 JL3009 NRT-ITM, JAL will sell it as a JPY10100/~92USD Sakitoku Type B while Google Flight's alternative skyticket is selling the same flight as a ~127USD Tokubin Type 21.
JAL's fare tool shows the pricing per flight and per fare class for their public domestic fares:
https://www.5971.jal.co.jp/eng/FareList.do
Consumption tax appears to be included in the amounts but not originating and terminating passenger facility fees.
In the past when people are using UR bookings to help lower their costs to maintain status, (therefore they need to book certain fare class) they can call and the Connexions rep can look into the fares listed in the GDS system, and can book a specific fare requested by the UR cardholder.
Now with Expedia, such ability does not exist. What you get is what Exoedia system displays. Their reps have no clue what fare class is. All they can tell you is they can only book what is found in their system. This is not just related to airfares, but also hotels, cruises and activities.
The marriage with Expedia is a big devaluation of UR pts in a not so obvious way until the users find more and more irregularities and inabilities to use their UR pts efficiently to the advertised value.
FWIW
Here is what BA shows the $3.42 taxes charged
Domestic Passenger Facility Charge - Japan USD 1.08
Domestic Passenger Facility Charge - Japan USD 2.34
Total government, authority and airport charges USD 3.42.
Mar 4, 2019, 4:38 pm
#2798
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Mar 4, 2019, 5:08 pm
#2800
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Mar 4, 2019, 6:17 pm
#2801
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Mar 4, 2019, 8:39 pm
#2803
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I have never tried upgrades, now with the award tickets on dynamic pricing, how does upgrades work?
If I were to book a flight that is XXX-NRT-XXX, would I be required to upgrade both XXX-NRT and NRT-XXX or I can just select one segment? Thanks.
Also, it seems like JAL is not updating status T+3~4, my status is still the same after finishing my JGC run even though FOP is in...
If I were to book a flight that is XXX-NRT-XXX, would I be required to upgrade both XXX-NRT and NRT-XXX or I can just select one segment? Thanks.
Also, it seems like JAL is not updating status T+3~4, my status is still the same after finishing my JGC run even though FOP is in...
Mar 4, 2019, 9:37 pm
#2804
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I have never tried upgrades, now with the award tickets on dynamic pricing, how does upgrades work?
If I were to book a flight that is XXX-NRT-XXX, would I be required to upgrade both XXX-NRT and NRT-XXX or I can just select one segment? Thanks.
Also, it seems like JAL is not updating status T+3~4, my status is still the same after finishing my JGC run even though FOP is in...
If I were to book a flight that is XXX-NRT-XXX, would I be required to upgrade both XXX-NRT and NRT-XXX or I can just select one segment? Thanks.
Also, it seems like JAL is not updating status T+3~4, my status is still the same after finishing my JGC run even though FOP is in...
Mar 4, 2019, 10:54 pm
#2805
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Location: Japan
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