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Corona related JAL announcements page link.
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.A: Yes. written here (link) A. Definitely, within the lounge access rules of course. written here (link)
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.
1. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. NGO-HNL is booked in business class, but HND-NGO is in economy. Will we still get the baggage allowance as if we're flying business class the whole way?
2. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. Will we have lounge access in HND?
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#4126
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7
Yup, I got all details except that notorious order number. Guess I'm gonna hang out in the hotline for a while
#4127
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
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#4128
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 49
Is there a way to search for B and Y international economy fares on the JAL website? (For the purpose of earning 100% FLYON pts per mile)
I have a multi-city itinerary that I've put together with Google Flights and ITA Matrix, which I can book through several somewhat sketchy third-party websites, which don't display fare codes at all. When I look up the same itinerary on JAL's website, it prices for roughly the same price, but the fares come up as a combination of K and Y. I haven't found a way yet to for the website to show only B or Y. I would have thought there'd be some "refundable fares only" option or something like that, if not full options over fares...?
I have a multi-city itinerary that I've put together with Google Flights and ITA Matrix, which I can book through several somewhat sketchy third-party websites, which don't display fare codes at all. When I look up the same itinerary on JAL's website, it prices for roughly the same price, but the fares come up as a combination of K and Y. I haven't found a way yet to for the website to show only B or Y. I would have thought there'd be some "refundable fares only" option or something like that, if not full options over fares...?
#4129
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Location: Tokyo
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Is there a way to search for B and Y international economy fares on the JAL website? (For the purpose of earning 100% FLYON pts per mile)
I have a multi-city itinerary that I've put together with Google Flights and ITA Matrix, which I can book through several somewhat sketchy third-party websites, which don't display fare codes at all. When I look up the same itinerary on JAL's website, it prices for roughly the same price, but the fares come up as a combination of K and Y. I haven't found a way yet to for the website to show only B or Y. I would have thought there'd be some "refundable fares only" option or something like that, if not full options over fares...?
I have a multi-city itinerary that I've put together with Google Flights and ITA Matrix, which I can book through several somewhat sketchy third-party websites, which don't display fare codes at all. When I look up the same itinerary on JAL's website, it prices for roughly the same price, but the fares come up as a combination of K and Y. I haven't found a way yet to for the website to show only B or Y. I would have thought there'd be some "refundable fares only" option or something like that, if not full options over fares...?
The fare families can vary by point of sale, but Y is in Economy Flex and B in Economy Semi Flex. Though I don't know of an option to push it from M to B if M is available in the semi flex family. Probably a TA or calling JAL can fix that.
They layout of website also does differ by POS, but in the Japan region I can see the fare families, and current offered booking class just by selecting economy at the input screen. But as said, I don't have an option to move from the lowest available in that family to B.
#4132
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 167
Well, I goofed a bit and put myself in First Class and my wife in Business without really thinking about it. We are on the same flight. Of course, we will look closer in to see if we can upgrade to F if award space opens up. But... if it doesn't, will JAL allow us to "switch" so that I take my wife's seat and she can move up to F? I sort of doubt it, but wondering if they would be flexible.
#4133
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 49
Do you folks have any tips on what's a cheap mileage run for 2,300 FLYON points (incl. bonuses/doubling/etc)? What routes tend to be cheaper per airline mile within Japan?
I'll be just shy of 80,000 this year, and I'll be in Japan for a few days in November, so I could try something domestic perhaps.
EDIT: Also, Is it correct that the current 2.0x FLYON points bonus on international bookings does not stack with the standard 1.5x FLYON bonus for bookings within Oceania? Normally SYD-HND earns at 1.5x, so I'm guessing with the current promotion it'll just be 2.0x, not 3.0x?
I'll be just shy of 80,000 this year, and I'll be in Japan for a few days in November, so I could try something domestic perhaps.
EDIT: Also, Is it correct that the current 2.0x FLYON points bonus on international bookings does not stack with the standard 1.5x FLYON bonus for bookings within Oceania? Normally SYD-HND earns at 1.5x, so I'm guessing with the current promotion it'll just be 2.0x, not 3.0x?
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#4134
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Well, I goofed a bit and put myself in First Class and my wife in Business without really thinking about it. We are on the same flight. Of course, we will look closer in to see if we can upgrade to F if award space opens up. But... if it doesn't, will JAL allow us to "switch" so that I take my wife's seat and she can move up to F? I sort of doubt it, but wondering if they would be flexible.
#4135
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Do you folks have any tips on what's a cheap mileage run for 2,300 FLYON points (incl. bonuses/doubling/etc)? What routes tend to be cheaper per airline mile within Japan?
I'll be just shy of 80,000 this year, and I'll be in Japan for a few days in November, so I could try something domestic perhaps.
EDIT: Also, Is it correct that the current 2.0x FLYON points bonus on international bookings does not stack with the standard 1.5x FLYON bonus for bookings within Oceania? Normally SYD-HND earns at 1.5x, so I'm guessing with the current promotion it'll just be 2.0x, not 3.0x?
I'll be just shy of 80,000 this year, and I'll be in Japan for a few days in November, so I could try something domestic perhaps.
EDIT: Also, Is it correct that the current 2.0x FLYON points bonus on international bookings does not stack with the standard 1.5x FLYON bonus for bookings within Oceania? Normally SYD-HND earns at 1.5x, so I'm guessing with the current promotion it'll just be 2.0x, not 3.0x?
Last edited by CPH-Flyer; Sep 29, 2022 at 11:25 pm
#4136
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 18
I'm planning on flying LAX-BKK in Premium Economy (PE) roundtrip in November. I saw that JAL offers a bid upgrade option possibly from PE to Business. I was unable to find information on what the minimum bid is for this type of upgrade. Does anyone know the minimum bid and the potential likelihood of getting an upgrade with a minimum bid?
#4137
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I'm planning on flying LAX-BKK in Premium Economy (PE) roundtrip in November. I saw that JAL offers a bid upgrade option possibly from PE to Business. I was unable to find information on what the minimum bid is for this type of upgrade. Does anyone know the minimum bid and the potential likelihood of getting an upgrade with a minimum bid?
#4138
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 49
JAL's website doesn't mention the regional bonus at all, and their FLYON calculator didn't seem to include it at all, so I'm still a bit unsure if it'll really get added on, effectively a 3.0x FOP earn rate per mile flown in R/W
#4139
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Thanks, if that's the case, I might even get to 100k this year!
JAL's website doesn't mention the regional bonus at all, and their FLYON calculator didn't seem to include it at all, so I'm still a bit unsure if it'll really get added on, effectively a 3.0x FOP earn rate per mile flown in R/W
JAL's website doesn't mention the regional bonus at all, and their FLYON calculator didn't seem to include it at all, so I'm still a bit unsure if it'll really get added on, effectively a 3.0x FOP earn rate per mile flown in R/W
#4140
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: KUL
Programs: Salaryman One World Sapphire
Posts: 236
I am curious, trying to do such itin for my trip via Multi city booking tab (instead on the main apge)
Day 1+1 KUL-NRT
Day 2 - HND-ISG-HND
Day 4 - NRT-KUL
No problem getting fare quoted in EY and C/Class J.
But will get error when trying to book domestic first class on ISG route (checked and they have seat there) not sure why but I assumed kul segment need to be first class as well (which they dont do so) in order to book? Something like all leg must be in First class then only it is do-able?
However, when I tried to add one more dom routing
Day 1+1 KULNRT
Day 2 - HND-ISG-HND
Day 3 - HND-OKA-HND
Day 4 - NRT-KUL
I will get this error after selection NRT KUL Leg, not sure why, tried from EY to C class will still have this error.
And yes, considered Jal explorer pass but now the accumulation is so low
Day 1+1 KUL-NRT
Day 2 - HND-ISG-HND
Day 4 - NRT-KUL
No problem getting fare quoted in EY and C/Class J.
But will get error when trying to book domestic first class on ISG route (checked and they have seat there) not sure why but I assumed kul segment need to be first class as well (which they dont do so) in order to book? Something like all leg must be in First class then only it is do-able?
However, when I tried to add one more dom routing
Day 1+1 KULNRT
Day 2 - HND-ISG-HND
Day 3 - HND-OKA-HND
Day 4 - NRT-KUL
I will get this error after selection NRT KUL Leg, not sure why, tried from EY to C class will still have this error.
And yes, considered Jal explorer pass but now the accumulation is so low