Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Destinations > Europe > Italy
Reload this Page >

Herculaneum - Naples

Herculaneum - Naples

Old Oct 15, 07, 9:13 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YVR
Programs: AC E75, SPG Plat, HH peon-by-choice (ex Gold)
Posts: 8,090
Herculaneum - Naples

I was going to head down to Naples and was wondering if I need a tour guide going to Herculaneum.

For Pompeii, I assume it's so large that a tour guide would be very useful. However, I heard Herculaneum was quite a bit smaller and wondered if I could do it on my own.

I would assume taking a taxi there and back is probably the easiest way to get there.

Thanks.
Braindrain is offline  
Old Oct 15, 07, 9:15 pm
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon
Programs: AS MVPG, BA silver, Crystal Society Double Diamond
Posts: 870
You can take the train but

it is a long walk down hill and an even worse long walk up hill. A guide might be nice but they also have those audio guides you can rent. It is well worth the trip.
ijkh is offline  
Old Oct 15, 07, 9:33 pm
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YVR
Programs: AC E75, SPG Plat, HH peon-by-choice (ex Gold)
Posts: 8,090
Thanks, ijkh. So, you're essentially confirming a taxi is the best for someone lazy like me?
Braindrain is offline  
Old Oct 15, 07, 9:42 pm
  #4  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon
Programs: AS MVPG, BA silver, Crystal Society Double Diamond
Posts: 870
yes

It is ideal. Have a great trip. If you are going from Naples their taxi drivers are a pretty hard nosed lot. Bargin hard.
ijkh is offline  
Old Oct 15, 07, 9:49 pm
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Programs: statusless these days
Posts: 19,667
You might as well tale the train. The walk back up to the train station isn't that long and steep. I guess it depends on how used to walking (or not) you are.

You might want to check for the tours to the parts not open to casual visitors. The bath is one such site.
YVR Cockroach is online now  
Old Oct 16, 07, 12:12 am
  #6  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YVR
Programs: AC E75, SPG Plat, HH peon-by-choice (ex Gold)
Posts: 8,090
Originally Posted by ijkh View Post
It is ideal. Have a great trip. If you are going from Naples their taxi drivers are a pretty hard nosed lot. Bargin hard.
Thanks. Will keep that in mind.

Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach View Post
You might as well tale the train. The walk back up to the train station isn't that long and steep. I guess it depends on how used to walking (or not) you are.

You might want to check for the tours to the parts not open to casual visitors. The bath is one such site.
Good tip. Thanks.
Braindrain is offline  
Old Oct 16, 07, 1:50 pm
  #7  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 78
The train you want to pick up from Naples Central Train Station is called the Circumvesuviana. It takes you from Naples to Pompeii, Herculaneum, and Sorrento - which I am using as a base for Pompeii this week - not sure if I'll make it to Herculaneum. But I am taking the Circumvesuviana regardless and not a taxi.

Naples is notorious for being prone to petty theft and pickpocketing on the trains and at the train station. But I've heard that there is a stepped up police presence there in the last few years that has helped.
ahallflyertalk is offline  
Old Oct 17, 07, 10:09 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Charlotte, NC USA
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott Lifetime / Annual Titanium; Massively Missing Starwood
Posts: 5,064
Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach View Post
You might as well tale the train. The walk back up to the train station isn't that long and steep. I guess it depends on how used to walking (or not) you are.

You might want to check for the tours to the parts not open to casual visitors. The bath is one such site.
Is this legit for Herculaneum? I know it is for Pompeii but I had not read the same for this other site.
dingo is offline  
Old Oct 17, 07, 4:39 pm
  #9  
sk3
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Gold
Posts: 2,741
Just thought I'd throw this on this thread... if you are interested in visiting Herculaneum and happen to be in Los Angeles before or after your trip it would (IMHO) be really cool to visit the Getty Villa in Malibu. (It replicates the Villa dei Papiri). Plus of course, it houses a terrific collection (if the Italians let them keep some of it! )


http://www.getty.edu/visit/see_do/architecture.html
sk3 is offline  
Old Oct 19, 07, 12:50 am
  #10  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YVR
Programs: AC E75, SPG Plat, HH peon-by-choice (ex Gold)
Posts: 8,090
Originally Posted by ahallflyertalk View Post
The train you want to pick up from Naples Central Train Station is called the Circumvesuviana. It takes you from Naples to Pompeii, Herculaneum, and Sorrento - which I am using as a base for Pompeii this week - not sure if I'll make it to Herculaneum.
Thanks.
Braindrain is offline  
Old May 13, 13, 8:20 pm
  #11  
Moderator: CommunityBuzz!, OMNI, OMNI/PR, and OMNI/Games & FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: ORD (MDW stinks)
Programs: UAMM, AA ExPlat, Marriott lifetime Titanium, IHG Spire/Ambassador
Posts: 22,507
I've read that Pompeii is expansive and that one can get quite a good experience at the Herculaneum as opposed to visiting Pompeii.

I don't feel the need to visit both Herculaneum & Pompeii, anyone been to both?

I'm curious on your thoughts on the above, and did you feel one was a better experience than the other?
-
Sweet Willie is offline  
Old May 13, 13, 8:32 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: In the corner plotting world domination
Programs: 1K
Posts: 1,121
Originally Posted by Sweet Willie View Post
I've read that Pompeii is expansive and that one can get quite a good experience at the Herculaneum as opposed to visiting Pompeii.

I don't feel the need to visit both Herculaneum & Pompeii, anyone been to both?

I'm curious on your thoughts on the above, and did you feel one was a better experience than the other?
-
FWIW, I have only been to Pompeii (which I thoroughly enjoyed) but have been told by several Italians that Herculaneum would have been 'better'. The reasoning was unspecific in all cases except that it was less touristy.
Daringdoo is offline  
Old May 13, 13, 8:45 pm
  #13  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Programs: statusless these days
Posts: 19,667
They're both very different and both worth visiting. I've visited both in the '70s and '00s. i guess it depends on your time and mobility. (The excavated and open part of) Herculaneum is much smaller.
YVR Cockroach is online now  
Old May 14, 13, 2:58 am
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YVR
Programs: A3*G, AC, IHG Plat AMB
Posts: 1,576
Originally Posted by Sweet Willie View Post
I've read that Pompeii is expansive and that one can get quite a good experience at the Herculaneum as opposed to visiting Pompeii.

I don't feel the need to visit both Herculaneum & Pompeii, anyone been to both?

I'm curious on your thoughts on the above, and did you feel one was a better experience than the other?
-
It's been about seven(!) years since I did them both on back-to-back days, but beyond the odd ancient building burning down they shouldn't have changed much. When I went with my brother, we got the multi-site card and didn't find it expensive. Here's the link to a few of the of photos I had from both, a few of which I'll put here.

Pompeii IS expansive. It does, however, feature more notable historic monuments. Because of its size you can wander and get lost all day, choose what to see, and at least in our case avoid the crowds somewhat. Between the Stabian Baths and the Villa of the Mysteries, plazas, the amphitheatre, the Temple of Jupiter, and on and on and on, it fills a day. We had to start doing the "seen it, move on" thing by the end because we just couldn't do it all, however we also started later in the day. But if you spend the day, it's possible to see it well. Not much is preserved over the ground floor, and I mention this for reference later. The other thing to note is that we noticed the tourists collected more around the Temple of Jupiter and area, rather than heading out to the corners of the town.






As an aside, we stayed in Pompeii in a non-luxury property, but got a 3-bed hotel room off the main square for... I think something like €60.


Herculaneum, on the other hand, is a much smaller excavation and, because of its proximity to the volcano, got covered in much more so that it feels like it's at the bottom of a hole. This, to me, was the best part because more seemed to be preserved. Buildings may have walls going up above the ground floor and the streets seemed more... I want to say lifelike. There are some really nicely-preserved buildings and friezes. It was for this reason that I liked it more than Pompeii: you feel more like going back in time. It is, however, a much smaller dig with fewer "big name" villas and much less geared to a certain type of tourist (the example my brother used was that the toilets are much less... fancy than in pompeii. They have a seat on the mens', for example... He found it in the corner.) There's also not so much of a restaurant/gift shop/touts (in fact we saw no touts at all selling World Cup junk at the gates (this was 2006, of course, about a month after the fact)).






So as with most things, it's going to depend heavily on what you want. If you want to see the known things, take the day and see Pompeii. If you're not concerned about seeing Stabian and the Temple of Jupiter, or would rather spend some time away from the bigger crowds I recommend Herculaneum. Actually, I recommend Herculaneum in general, for the specific reasons above, if you have to pick one. If you can't choose, though, do what we did and see one in the afternoon, stay over in Pompeii or Herculaneum, and see the other in the next morning.

Last edited by DJ Bitterbarn; May 14, 13 at 3:06 am
DJ Bitterbarn is online now  
Old May 16, 13, 7:13 am
  #15  
Moderator: CommunityBuzz!, OMNI, OMNI/PR, and OMNI/Games & FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: ORD (MDW stinks)
Programs: UAMM, AA ExPlat, Marriott lifetime Titanium, IHG Spire/Ambassador
Posts: 22,507
Thanks for the replies.^

DJ Bitterbarn terrific description & good photos:-:
Sweet Willie is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search Engine: