"Green passport" enforced from Aug 8. How can US citizens get one?
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Short answer: No. The government is releasing a load of additional measures that have a wider range of applications than allowing non-EU tourists in (providing ample and cheap access to tests for those who haven't been able to vaccinate yet, who can be exempt and so on). The government has been saying that they'll provide means to recognise other countries' vaccinations by month's end, which is this week (they've been mostly referring to Italian citizens vaccinated outside of the EU though).
Longer answer: I think US tourists will be fine, barring any retaliatory bombshell given that Biden is still banning EU travellers of all kind from the US. If you look at the EU regulation - which trumps local laws - Regulation EU 2021/953 institutes the Green Pass Framework. EU 2021/954 adds on to that and says:
So my reading is that it will be OK. In my sleuthing I found a letter from the Italian federation of GPs to its members that says the following (rough translation below):
https://fimmg.bari.it/articoli/9PB6F
Longer answer: I think US tourists will be fine, barring any retaliatory bombshell given that Biden is still banning EU travellers of all kind from the US. If you look at the EU regulation - which trumps local laws - Regulation EU 2021/953 institutes the Green Pass Framework. EU 2021/954 adds on to that and says:
Member States shall apply the rules laid down in Regulation (EU) 2021/953 to third-country nationals who do not fall within the scope of that Regulation, but who are legally staying or residing in their territory and who are entitled to travel to other Member States in accordance with Union law.
è del tutto evidente che le certificazioni di vaccinazione rilasciate dagli Stati membri nonché dai Paesi terzi e conformi a quanto previsto dall'art. 5 del Regolamento UE 2021/953 debbano considerarsi valide e documenti di prova dell'avvenuta vaccinazione ai fini delle attività di Sanità pubblica nonché di libera circolazione dei soggetti vaccinati. Tuttavia, ai fini del rilascio delle certificazioni verdi COVID-19 si devono attendere gli atti delegati previsti dal quadro normativo innanzi richiamato.
it's evident that vaccine certificates compliant with Art. 5 of EU regulation 2021/953 provided by EU member states and other countries must be considered valid [...] however, in order to release Green passes, we must wait for further ancillary acts announced by the government
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Over on the France forum, it appears the French Government starting August 2nd will provide European QR codes to select non-French people (Expansion of the pass sanitaire - Page 14 - FlyerTalk Forums). I happen to live in California, and have a vaccination QR code from the state. It appears from that forum, that such a QR code would be accepted and turned into a European QR code. Would that European code then be accepted in Italy? I'm currently leaving for Italy, via CDG, on August 7th. So I'm hoping this is maybe a 'back door' method to get a QR code which I can use while in Italy.
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Short and sweet (well sour) answer: don't know.
I tried the same 'fudge' with my UK NHS certificate, which generated a QR code on the French pass, but the Italian covid checker app refused it. It seems that the code generated by the French app for these 'overseas' certificates is not quite the EU one. Go figure.
The ministry of health promised and swore that they'll release more info by the end of the current month - i.e. tomorrow. Knowing them, and based on what they did in the past, this will happen at 16.59 tomorrow afternoon. Unfortunately these measures are done on very short notice... which is frustrating.
I tried the same 'fudge' with my UK NHS certificate, which generated a QR code on the French pass, but the Italian covid checker app refused it. It seems that the code generated by the French app for these 'overseas' certificates is not quite the EU one. Go figure.
The ministry of health promised and swore that they'll release more info by the end of the current month - i.e. tomorrow. Knowing them, and based on what they did in the past, this will happen at 16.59 tomorrow afternoon. Unfortunately these measures are done on very short notice... which is frustrating.
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The ministry of health promised and swore that they'll release more info by the end of the current month - i.e. tomorrow. Knowing them, and based on what they did in the past, this will happen at 16.59 tomorrow afternoon. Unfortunately these measures are done on very short notice... which is frustrating.
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Full file here: https://www.salute.gov.it/imgs/C_17_...580_0_file.pdf

I'm a bit in a rush but it says that certificates from the abovementioned states are valid and can be shown in digital or paper format.

I'm a bit in a rush but it says that certificates from the abovementioned states are valid and can be shown in digital or paper format.
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Full file here: https://www.salute.gov.it/imgs/C_17_...580_0_file.pdf
I'm a bit in a rush but it says that certificates from the abovementioned states are valid and can be shown in digital or paper format.
I'm a bit in a rush but it says that certificates from the abovementioned states are valid and can be shown in digital or paper format.
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So if you are American, you have your hand-scribbled teacher note saying you have had your covid vaccine... it's all good. Of course, I invite others to check the sources here as I'm not a lawyer, just a reader.
However, and frustratingly, visitors from the UK would still need to do the 5 day self isolation AND have a test done 48h prior to entering the country which is a mighty pain in the arse for me.
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Latest from Italian goverment regarding
Italian nationals returning to Italy and foreigners in Italy (esteri.it)
In regards to the green pass it states that :
"The certificates issued by the competent Canadian, Japanese, Israeli, UK and US authorities are considered equivalent to the European green pass"
More details at the link above
Italian nationals returning to Italy and foreigners in Italy (esteri.it)
In regards to the green pass it states that :
"The certificates issued by the competent Canadian, Japanese, Israeli, UK and US authorities are considered equivalent to the European green pass"
More details at the link above
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Latest from Italian goverment regarding
Italian nationals returning to Italy and foreigners in Italy (esteri.it)
In regards to the green pass it states that :
"The certificates issued by the competent Canadian, Japanese, Israeli, UK and US authorities are considered equivalent to the European green pass"
More details at the link above
Italian nationals returning to Italy and foreigners in Italy (esteri.it)
In regards to the green pass it states that :
"The certificates issued by the competent Canadian, Japanese, Israeli, UK and US authorities are considered equivalent to the European green pass"
More details at the link above
Rapid antigen tests are also available widely through the country, including in smaller 'città d'arte' (a.e. Gubbio, Urbino) for a modest fee (I believe 25EUR).
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No problems whatsoever in Rome. You need the green pass to sit inside restaurants or go to museums,.
in Rome, they were ready, not a single issue when we showed our CDC cards, same at the Vatican museums,
on the local news, plenty of mentions about the 5 countries whose vaccination certificates are given equivalent recognitions to the green pass: US, Canada, Israel, Japan, UK
Unlike France, it seems the green pass has been accepted well by the local populace.
in Rome, they were ready, not a single issue when we showed our CDC cards, same at the Vatican museums,
on the local news, plenty of mentions about the 5 countries whose vaccination certificates are given equivalent recognitions to the green pass: US, Canada, Israel, Japan, UK
Unlike France, it seems the green pass has been accepted well by the local populace.
Last edited by jnyeung; Aug 7, 21 at 5:28 am