IHG to Eliminate toiletries single use across all brands
Jul 31, 2019, 6:52 am
#46
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It only takes one.
Jul 31, 2019, 7:02 am
#47
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I am all for hotels being environmentally friendly, but I find that a lot of these same hotels that say they are taking steps to save the environment (using bottled toiletries, pushing re-using towels) do not even put a recycle bin in the hotel room. For some reason, that just drives me nuts and makes their other efforts to me seem fake and makes me feel that they are only pushing these other initiatives to help their bottom line and not the environment.
Jul 31, 2019, 7:03 am
#48
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I have and I hate them. I realize after I am already wet in the shower that I need to break this seal somehow with slippery fingers. Don't most/many US SPG and Marriott properties have these?
If you are worried about someone tampering with these bottles, then simply do not use them. You can buy shampoo and gel anywhere.
If you are worried about someone tampering with these bottles, then simply do not use them. You can buy shampoo and gel anywhere.
I remember staying in a hotel that had the shampoo on the wall. I think it was an Ibis. The front of the container popped off and it appeared the shampoo was in a large bag. It did not look it was refillable at all, the maids just swapped out the bag when it was empty.
Jul 31, 2019, 8:28 am
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But the IHG announcement is doing away with 4 individual bottles (shampoo, body wash, conditioner, lotion) and replacing with only two (hair + body wash and lotion).
What happened to the conditioner?!? As someone with waist length hair who abhors checked baggage, I use provided toiletries at my destination, including copious amounts of shampoo and conditioner.
What happened to the conditioner?!? As someone with waist length hair who abhors checked baggage, I use provided toiletries at my destination, including copious amounts of shampoo and conditioner.
If you're looking for a floor on what the Big Three will provide in the USA, even tru by Hilton, which was all large dispensers from the beginning, does have separate shampoo, conditioner, and body wash rather than that awful universal human scrub stuff you get in European budget hotels.
Jul 31, 2019, 8:42 am
#54
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Do you have any proof to back up that claim? To me, eliminating tiny plastic bottles and using refillable ones certainly sounds like a positive in terms of the environment.
The fact that something is good for the environment doesn't mean it can't also be good for the bottom line. Why can't this action be both?
The fact that something is good for the environment doesn't mean it can't also be good for the bottom line. Why can't this action be both?
It's also worth noting that many holiday Inns in Asia, certainly those in Hong Kong and Macau, already use biodegradable small bottles. Of-course these are quite expensive for the hotels.. Remember refillable doesn't mean that there is no plastic waste, it's just that the waste is reduced. What I would like to see is all one-use plastic eliminated from everywhere and biodegradable or even better compostable materials are used.
Jul 31, 2019, 8:46 am
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There have been cases of someone putting urine inside. Not sure if that classifies as 'getting hurt'.
Jul 31, 2019, 9:19 am
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Only a matter of time before people start filling these wall dispensers with god knows what, urine, feces, acid, etc. No thanks, I'll stick to mini bottles for which I am the only user.
Jul 31, 2019, 9:22 am
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The mini bottles however are easy to tamper with.
Jul 31, 2019, 9:48 am
#58
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I highly welcome this change, and I really hope other hotels will follow soon.
It could be true that IHG is also saving some money out of this initiative, but I don't see anything wrong with it.
Saving the environment + cost saving for the corporation = double win.
If you are afraid others will tamper the bulk containers, don't worry, I think you'll be fine.
How do you use public bathrooms everyday that have soap in bulk containers?
How do you know the refillable liquid soap at your office is safe/clean?
What about gyms where showers have shampoo in bulk containers?
Everyday we are exposed to ton of shared items that theoretically could be tampered if anyone wanted to do so, and yet we are all fine...I don't think our lives will be suddenly at risk when hotels introduce bulk containers for rooms.
It could be true that IHG is also saving some money out of this initiative, but I don't see anything wrong with it.
Saving the environment + cost saving for the corporation = double win.
If you are afraid others will tamper the bulk containers, don't worry, I think you'll be fine.
How do you use public bathrooms everyday that have soap in bulk containers?
How do you know the refillable liquid soap at your office is safe/clean?
What about gyms where showers have shampoo in bulk containers?
Everyday we are exposed to ton of shared items that theoretically could be tampered if anyone wanted to do so, and yet we are all fine...I don't think our lives will be suddenly at risk when hotels introduce bulk containers for rooms.
Jul 31, 2019, 9:51 am
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In principle, I support the move to bulk dispensers, if they are kept clean and full, and are periodically cleaned inside.
I would wonder if the recyclable containers are being recycled, or if they are being tossed rather than introducing another layer of complexity by handling them differently. The people who decide to do good things for the environment are not the people who handle the products that are better for the environment.
In hotels with recycle bins in the rooms, I have seen housekeeping carts with only one place to put discards from the room. It's this sort of thing that makes me a cynic. As Dilbert said in a strip long ago, one theory is that the cleaner makes one pass to collect the recyclables and a second pass to collect the trash.
In hotels with recycle bins in the rooms, I have seen housekeeping carts with only one place to put discards from the room. It's this sort of thing that makes me a cynic. As Dilbert said in a strip long ago, one theory is that the cleaner makes one pass to collect the recyclables and a second pass to collect the trash.
