2019 Points Devaluation ***January 14th***

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Old Jan 5, 19, 5:47 am
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2019 Points Devaluation ***January 14th***

There are 696 properties which are having their points requirements changed on January 14th.
570 I.E. 82% of these properties are increasing in points value.

Approximately 440-450 of the hotels affected are in the U.S.A.
The average property value is changing from (an average) of 24,000 points to 27,180 points.
There are no new 70,000 point properties.
There are no properties >70,000 points.

All in all, I think it's generally fair enough and not too extreme.

Australia ICs
IC Sydney - 60k to 65k
IC Sydney Double Bay - 50k to 55k
IC Sanctuary Cove Resort - 35k to 40k
IC Melbourne 55k to 60k

Canada ICs
IC Toronto Centre - 40k to 45k
IC Toronto Yorkville - 40k to 45k
IC Montreal - 45k to 50k

Germany
IC Berlin 35k to 40k
IC Dusseldorf 50k to 60k

Hungrary
IC Budapest 35k to 40k

Ireland
IC Dublin 50k to 55k

Japan
IC Tokyo Bay 50k to 55k
IC Yokohama Grand 50k to 55k
IC ANA Tokyo 50k to 55k

China:
IC Tangshan 25k to 20k
IC Shanghai Expo 30k to 25k
IC Heilong Lake 30k to 25k
IC OneThousand Island Lake Resort 45k to 40k
IC Lhasa Paradise 25k to 20k

Mexico:
IC Presidente Mexico City 30k to 35k

Portugal:
IC Porto - 45k to 50k

Saudi Arabia:
IC Dar Al Tawhid Makkah - 45k to 50k

USA:
IC LA Century City 60k to 65k
IC Buckhead Atlasnta-Northlake 15k to 20k
IC Kansas City at Plaza 40k to 45k

Venezuela:
IC Tamanaco Caracas 30k to 25k

Vietnam:
IC Hanoi Landmark72 35k to 30k

South Korea:
IC Alpensia Pyeongchang Resort - 25k to 30k


Full details here:
https://ihg.scene7.com/is/content/ih...120718_PDF.pdf

I found this myself so appreciate other blogs not claiming the full credit themselves
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Old Jan 5, 19, 5:54 am
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Hahaha. Nice. I just called out that a deval is coming in the RA thread but I didnít think it was so soon Thanks for posting this. Guess we should be happy no new 70K properties... enjoy the little things. hah
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Old Jan 5, 19, 5:58 am
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Hahaha. Nice. I just called out that a deval is coming in the RA thread but I didnít think it was so soon Thanks for posting this. Guess we should be happy no new 70K properties... enjoy the little things. hah
I saw you call it out and so I went hunting for it I found the 2018 list in January last year and so figured I'd find the 2019 list - thanks for the motivation
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Many thanks for that heads-up Lionheart.

I had just booked a few ihg rooms on points this morning, mainly at the CP at Manchester Airport and also a few other places.

I think I will get cracking and get a few more booked.

Thanks again.

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Thanks for the heads up, Lionheart!
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Old Jan 5, 19, 6:52 am
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Credit OP indeed since these take effect Jan 14th so you have time to book book book now
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Thanks nice find, no bad news for me
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Thanks, great info as I guess IHG is not in the mood to give an official notice to program members. A class act by IHG as always
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The averages don’t look bad but that only applies if you spend a lot of time in Mexico, Russia, and Turkey to enjoy the reductions. If you stay a lot at US properties then you are seeing 25% increases. Look at Florida. The increases apply to, what seems like, most of the properties in the state. This is actually a massive deval for most folks.
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Old Jan 5, 19, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post
Hahaha. Nice. I just called out that a deval is coming in the RA thread but I didnít think it was so soon Thanks for posting this. Guess we should be happy no new 70K properties... enjoy the little things. hah
A devaluation is different than pricing going up from supply and demand of desirable locations
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Thanks for the heads up. Hotel Mrs. and I stay at during our twice yearly trip to FL is going up in points and I had not booked the spring trip (just been putting it off) but they are raising the points needed so was able to book rooms for both trip to and return trip at the lower rate.

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IHG consistently jacks rates at places I am willing to burn points at places I stay at (HIXes and Candlewood Suites in locations or times when they give good value). This might not seem too bad to someone who only burns for Intercontinentals but seeing point requirements jump 25-50% in a year is why I donít trust them as a brand and loyalty scheme any more than I would trust anyone paying me with a wheelbarrow of Zimbabwe dollars. IHG is earn and burn ASAP for me.
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For the Kimpton people, not many changes, and most of them positive.

Kimpton Changes

Kimpton Saint George Hotel (Toronto, ON) 40k -> 45k
Kimpton De Witt (Amsterdam) 50k -> 55k
Kimpton Goodland (Goleta / SB, CA) 50k -> 45k
Kimpton Sawyer (Sacramento, CA) 50k -> 45k
Kimpton Angler's (Miami, FL) 60k -> 55k
Kimpton Vero Beach (Vero Beach, FL) 65k -> 60k
Kimpton Monaco Baltimore (Baltimore, MD) 40k -> 35k
Kimpton Tryon Park (Charlotte, NC) 50k -> 45k
Kimpton Lorien (Alexandria, VA) 50k -> 45k
Kimpton Taconic (Manchester, VT) 50k -> 45k
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Old Jan 5, 19, 12:16 pm
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A couple of places I might have spent points at have gone up 5000 points and nothing of interest to me has gone down. It is not great, but it could have been so much worse.

The title of the document "2019 Point Changes Summary" implies that these are the changes for the year. Is it safe to assume there will be no more changes likely during 2019?

Hilton these seem to increase rates at will and without any notice. Recent point changes at Hilton have hurt me much more than these from IHG.
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Old Jan 5, 19, 12:56 pm
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The title of the document "2019 Point Changes Summary" implies that these are the changes for the year. Is it safe to assume there will be no more changes likely during 2019?
No, they only give a false image.

During the year there are other unannounced point increases.
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