New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria

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Old Oct 28, 16, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post

Lifetime confers more loyalty, a win win for SCH, and their most loyal customers.
That is not a given. Many elites have high status in multiple chains.

If one is given Lifetime, then many may use opportunity to stay less nights than needed to obtain said lifetime conferred status each year whilst still enjoying same benefits ....
allowing guest a new option to then chase a second/third status each year when yearly nights would not be enough without one lifetime status or even chase a different chains lifetime status.

If I had lifetime Spire/RA then the extra non-IC nights needed to bulk out my IC nights to 75/nn/3 would be able to be put to booking another chain when other chains hotel is preferrable to a poor IHG hotel, and that doesn't even account for also switching from good IHg hotels to competitor for yearly/lifetime status benefits
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Originally Posted by scubaccr View Post
That is not a given. Many elites have high status in multiple chains.

If one is given Lifetime, then many may use opportunity to stay less nights than needed to obtain said lifetime conferred status each year whilst still enjoying same benefits ....
allowing guest a new option to then chase a second/third status each year when yearly nights would not be enough without one lifetime status or even chase a different chains lifetime status.

If I had lifetime Spire/RA then the extra non-IC nights needed to bulk out my IC nights to 75/nn/3 would be able to be put to booking another chain when other chains hotel is preferrable to a poor IHG hotel, and that doesn't even account for also switching from good IHg hotels to competitor for yearly/lifetime status benefits
Indeed since hitting LT Plat with Starwood in the middle of this year I have had zero stays. Since hitting Lifetime Gold with BA I have accrued only 60TP in a year. Lifetime gives licence to spend less moving forward not more, it's only real appeal to current management is to push more stays from those trying to qualify for Lifetime, why reward past behaviour, you can't change the past and past behaviour doesn't make you future money.
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Hi all,

Just a quick question, I now reached 79/76/3 since last Monday.

Please could you advise based on your experience , how long does it take them to realise that maybe I am qualified ?


Thanks in advance !
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Old Oct 28, 16, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by NKU View Post
Hi all,

Just a quick question, I now reached 79/76/3 since last Monday.

Please could you advise based on your experience , how long does it take them to realise that maybe I am qualified ?


Thanks in advance !

1. You needed to be enrolled as Ambassador Member before the first stay of your 79nights. supposedly only nights stayed whilst enrolled as an Ambassador count towards becoming an RA
2. Also only PAID qualifying rate nights count (award nights or heavily discounted or OTA nights don't count)
3. Are all 79nights in a rolling 365 period (spanning 365 nights over two ambassador over years is allowed, een par month - part month)
4. were any IC/IHG nights manually corrected from nonqual -> qual nights. for some reason the "RA nights counter" ignores manually adjusted nights
5. RA Nights Counter only counts nights stayed after they are posted to your IHG @Rewards account. As such it is important those last 75-79 nights posted before your 1st-4th nights dropped off for being over 365days old
6. if manually adjusted nights drop count < 75 then contact Amb Helpdesk, ask to be put through to supervisor and then ask supervisor for a "manual count".
7. Remember lengthy negotiated stays where you sign a contract with an hotel for longe stay at discounted rates, by default contract states nights are non qualifying.

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Assuming Paid+qual nights target 79/30/3 is met, then historically RA status shows up on your IHG account 2-3 working days (m-f) after the 75th night posts.
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Originally Posted by scubaccr View Post
That is not a given. Many elites have high status in multiple chains.

If one is given Lifetime, then many may use opportunity to stay less nights than needed to obtain said lifetime conferred status each year whilst still enjoying same benefits ....
allowing guest a new option to then chase a second/third status each year when yearly nights would not be enough without one lifetime status or even chase a different chains lifetime status.

If I had lifetime Spire/RA then the extra non-IC nights needed to bulk out my IC nights to 75/nn/3 would be able to be put to booking another chain when other chains hotel is preferrable to a poor IHG hotel, and that doesn't even account for also switching from good IHg hotels to competitor for yearly/lifetime status benefits
Hi scubaccr, i've heard that position previously, and whilst it may be true for some (you, and Land of Miles clearly) i'm a believer that Lifetime confers the highest status, that is more than a regular RA, Platinum, Diamond, hence i personally wld direct business to the programs i have lifetime status with, and frankly given Marriott/Ritz/SPG are offering, and Hyatt is offering, IHG are currently operating at a competitive disadvantage, by not offering it.
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Old Oct 28, 16, 1:03 pm
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Hi scubaccr, i've heard that position previously, and whilst it may be true for some (you, and Land of Miles clearly) i'm a believer that Lifetime confers the highest status, that is more than a regular RA, Platinum, Diamond, hence i personally wld direct business to the programs i have lifetime status with, and frankly given Marriott/Ritz/SPG are offering, and Hyatt is offering, IHG are currently operating at a competitive disadvantage, by not offering it.
Evidence from other forums is that lifetime members don't get "extra" treatment. You might be lifetime xx but that just means you don't need to requalify. It's not a higher level.
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Evidence from other forums is that lifetime members don't get "extra" treatment. You might be lifetime xx but that just means you don't need to requalify. It's not a higher level.
I have lifetime in several programs and you are right regarding the T's and C's of the program. But sometimes certain individual employees can be impressed and take special care when they see you are a lifetime member.
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I have lifetime in several programs and you are right regarding the T's and C's of the program. But sometimes certain individual employees can be impressed and take special care when they see you are a lifetime member.
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Hi Guys,

My Platinum Ambassador membership expires Mar 2017.
when they are determining how many stays/nights/spend per year, are they counting these numbers in the calendar year or your ambassador year.

Since Mar 2016 i have accumulated 20 Nights at 7 different IC's at a spend of around $6000 USD.

i will definitely spend another 10 nights at IC's before Mar 2017.

What are your thoughts on my chances of becoming RA??

Thanks
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Hi Guys,

My Platinum Ambassador membership expires Mar 2017.
when they are determining how many stays/nights/spend per year, are they counting these numbers in the calendar year or your ambassador year.

Since Mar 2016 i have accumulated 20 Nights at 7 different IC's at a spend of around $6000 USD.

i will definitely spend another 10 nights at IC's before Mar 2017.

What are your thoughts on my chances of becoming RA??

Thanks
KB
well thats the 30x IC nights and 3x duifferent IC hotels requirement ticked, assuming all 30 IC nights wee paid qualifying rate stays.
As well as 30 IC nights you need total of 75 paid qual nights which can include non-IC IHG hotel brands.

o currently on paid qual nights stayed (not spend)
o only paid qual nights count towards RA status (unlike eg award nights count towards Spire)
o currently believed 75nights needed, 30 nights of which at IC hotels and a minimum of three different IC hotels
o it is only posted to account stays that are counted
o the 75/30/3 can be in any rolling 365day period

Meet 75/30/3 goal and RA update should occur about3 working days after 75th night posts.
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I have lifetime in several programs and you are right regarding the T's and C's of the program. But sometimes certain individual employees can be impressed and take special care when they see you are a lifetime member.
As if on cue, I'm at the W Barcelona now and in the past the staff has given me great upgrades when I show them my heavy metal Starwood lifetime platinum card. And this time at check in it worked again and I got a better than expected upgrade at a nearly sold out hotel. When I walked up they said they had no upgrade for me except to a higher floor. But after they saw the card, they got on the phone and found a large suite. You cannot count on that happening every time or most of the time, but it does happen.

Please Ambassador managers, start a lifetime RA program! You will get lots more business from me, that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by scubaccr View Post
1. You needed to be enrolled as Ambassador Member before the first stay of your 79nights. supposedly only nights stayed whilst enrolled as an Ambassador count towards becoming an RA
2. Also only PAID qualifying rate nights count (award nights or heavily discounted or OTA nights don't count)
3. Are all 79nights in a rolling 365 period (spanning 365 nights over two ambassador over years is allowed, een par month - part month)
4. were any IC/IHG nights manually corrected from nonqual -> qual nights. for some reason the "RA nights counter" ignores manually adjusted nights
5. RA Nights Counter only counts nights stayed after they are posted to your IHG @Rewards account. As such it is important those last 75-79 nights posted before your 1st-4th nights dropped off for being over 365days old
6. if manually adjusted nights drop count < 75 then contact Amb Helpdesk, ask to be put through to supervisor and then ask supervisor for a "manual count".
7. Remember lengthy negotiated stays where you sign a contract with an hotel for longe stay at discounted rates, by default contract states nights are non qualifying.

THEN
Assuming Paid+qual nights target 79/30/3 is met, then historically RA status shows up on your IHG account 2-3 working days (m-f) after the 75th night posts.
Hey thanks for your response,
Just called Ambassador Line. They said I am not yet qualified.

I was just happened to be in Melbourne and Paris often in the past 6 months with two nights st the O2.

They are all qualified nights and they are not heavily discounted rates. It was not the lengthy stays either ( 5 nights max per trip).

So I believe I should have been qualified, unfortunately not.

I am super annoyed at them right now. I feel like I have made a real wrong choice and should have gone for Grand Hyatt....

I shall post any updates, if they somehow change their mind ( which I don't think they will).

Thanks anyway!

NKU

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Hi guys,

I got my RA status a couple of month ago, and seems well worth the (admittedly limited) effort!

This year my schedule means that I will be staying at IC's in China and the US, admittedly at several different locations. I have this vague recollection that you had to have IC stays in three different countries or regions - am I just mistaken?

I've done a search and found nothing.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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At present, the published criteria is 'By invitation only' based on qualifying nights.

Current anecdotal evidence indicates that the re-qualification criteria is:

Minimum IHG paid qualifying nights - 75
Minimum IC paid qualifying nights - 30
Minimum number of different ICs - 3 (not required to be in different countries)

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Old Oct 29, 16, 7:56 am
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Hey thanks for your response,
Just called Ambassador Line. They said I am not yet qualified.

NKU
Really sorry to hear that bad news,try Amb line again and ask for a Supervisor

Many initial Amb Line helpline operators are not that great when it comes to RA eligibility.
If you are are not showing RA, thyen the operator stupidly reads scripted replies and parrotts something like "you need more stays / you have not qualified at this mmoent" etc etc

You need ring up the Amb Line, and then say you need to speak to a supervisor and then you ask the supervisor for a manual nights count.
(Did you have some nights manually adjusted to qual-stay after failing to post correctly ? Such manually adjusted nights are ignored by RA auto-counter... ONLY a Supervisor manual count overcomes that issue)

The Manual count is always for the 365nights to the day you contact the supervisor. At least then you know if IHGs count agrees with your own !

Once Supervisor confirms your count as 79/30/3 then ask why you have not yet made Royal Ambassador status as you know the previously published 60/20/3 was increased from March2016 ... BUT you know IHGers who are being made RA at 75/30/3 which you have already exceeded

Let us know how you get on

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