New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update 2019: The RA status granted at the start of the calendar year 2017 and 2018 has been based on IC revenue. As from 2019 criteria again have become vague. RA is not achieved through IC spend only. Other, unknown elements are taken into account as well. (Fact: Some users with very high +25k IC spend were not renewed in 2019.)

Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria

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Old Jul 21, 19, 7:58 pm
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I think it's time to move on for me.. I have achieved Marriott LT Plat so I will pursue for Hyatt LT Globalist.
I've been RA for 10 years and I was happy with so many wonderful ICs and staffs.
But spending 10~20k every year for suite excluded upgrade, no lifetime status and $50 minibar credit, just unacceptable..

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Old Jul 22, 19, 2:55 am
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Originally Posted by scienm View Post
I think it's time to move on for me.. I have achieved Marriott LT Plat so I will pursue for Hyatt LT Globalist.
I've been RA for 10 years and I was happy with so many wonderful ICs and staffs.
But spending 10~20k every year for suite excluded upgrade, no lifetime status and $50 minibar credit, just unacceptable..
Well put.

I'm writing this from IC PRG, where I got a pretty nice suite with a good view (certainly beyond the 2 level upgrade), but I'm paying for this stay - I haven't a clue what would've happened if I had used my points, of which I have oodles.

I've started moving my stays to Hyatt - PH has been incredible every time bar none.
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Old Jul 23, 19, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by scienm View Post
I think it's time to move on for me.. I have achieved Marriott LT Plat so I will pursue for Hyatt LT Globalist.
I've been RA for 10 years and I was happy with so many wonderful ICs and staffs.
But spending 10~20k every year for suite excluded upgrade, no lifetime status and $50 minibar credit, just unacceptable..
IHG moved me on - I'm not going to re-hash my tale of woe: suffice it to say well over ten years RA and just over 100 paid nights at ICs last year counted for nothing. I joined when it was known as Six Continents, run by a small team in (I think) Bristol.

In January of this year, that level of commitment was rewarded with one year's subscription to a status any Tom, Dick or Harriet gets for a couple of hundred dollars, no stay history required.

So, anyway, Bonvoy and HH stepped in with flashy status cards, so for the first half of this year I've hopped between the two, supplementing those stays with some at the couple of ICs which continue to treat me well. I'm letting Bonvoy go: it was getting too complicated running with two programmes and Hilton is he simplest, the easiest, to maintain.

Make no mistake, ICs (generally) offer better facilities, nicer rooms and much classier lounges than Hiltons. But the HH programme comes into its own with breakfasts at its main and sub-brand hotels, and access to lounges, on all stays, cash or points. Suites are hit and miss, but some are delightful; lounges can be horribly crowded and the early check-in policy (or lack of it) is an irritant. I've had to get used to popping into the lounge for a Coke rather than use the mini-bar, but I also avoid the silliness of cash credits and penalties introduced by the crazies at IHG.

The geographical footprint of perfectly nice hotels offering consistent benefits is impressive: and given that I travel widely and pay ultimately out of my own pocket, that's important.

I'll drop out of the Ambassador and Spire programmes at the end of the year.

I know the loss of my spend is but a drop in IHG's ocean. But it might be more significant at hotel level. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only demoted or disillusioned RA who has left the programme, so maybe the cumulative impact will wake up the corporate smarties at IHG Towers.

Maybe they WILL reclaim the services, or the spirit, of Ms Negus

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Old Jul 23, 19, 4:29 am
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I don't think IHG care about RA. They've been gradually trying to dispose of the program for a while now. I suspect the perpetrators of the recent mini-bar ruse are mightily pleased with themselves. That's how short-sighted they are.
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Old Jul 23, 19, 4:48 am
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They care about development in new markets, and specifically China.

They even literally offer better benefits in that market.
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Old Jul 23, 19, 12:09 pm
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All though minor in terms of overall monetary impact, the enhanced minibar is a colossal marketing failure as it sends their “most valued guests” off with a negative impression (checking out - having to cough up 15$ due to restocking fee and other creative charges).

Archetypical spreadsheet economics failing to see the big picture. And yes, I agree with the previous speaker; they’re probably saluting themselves for “job well done”, because the spreadsheet numbers are now back in black.

On the flip side (of spreadsheet economics) you have IKEA, offering free ice-cream to kids when parents use IKEA’s free babysitting service - no purchase necessary.
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Old Aug 9, 19, 11:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
how is it, do you like the room, are you in the opposite the club lounge, we have stayed in two different ones, one the level under club as well IIRC.
I am sorry that I am making a very late reply.
The assigned room (Royal Amb Suite @IC Boston) for me was the one located just the opposite to the club lounge. As you know, only a-few-second walk

I liked the room very much, especially the large living room with a nice view, although if the property were placed higher from the ground the landscape looking down the river would be much greater.
Also aside from the room I thought the F&B presentation of the club lounge was a bit weaker (no afternoon tea service, omelet station only open on weekends, etc.).
The club lounge manager was saying he was new to the property & also new to IHG, so just hoping that he would make some improvements, ones that are competitive to qualities of other luxury brands.
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Old Aug 9, 19, 11:54 pm
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Back in May when I stayed at IC NY Barclay, I just glanced at a piece of paper for the staff describing my stay.
It was by accident, when there was a change in staff who unintentionally left the paper in front of me.

In the paper there was a column saying "VIP" and in my case "6" was filled in the column.

I just thought if someone here has had any chance to see that kind of info or someone has any idea about what the column means?
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Old Aug 10, 19, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by serendipity1211 View Post
Back in May when I stayed at IC NY Barclay, I just glanced at a piece of paper for the staff describing my stay.
It was by accident, when there was a change in staff who unintentionally left the paper in front of me.

In the paper there was a column saying "VIP" and in my case "6" was filled in the column.

I just thought if someone here has had any chance to see that kind of info or someone has any idea about what the column means?
It’s vary on hotels, However, in many of case, “6” means Royal Ambassador. It’s a legacy of Six Continents Club.
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Old Aug 11, 19, 1:52 am
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It’s vary on hotels, However, in many of case, “6” means Royal Ambassador. It’s a legacy of Six Continents Club.
Makes sense! Thank you for the info! Arigato
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Old Aug 19, 19, 8:23 am
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one question: what has all this conversation to do with the RA qualifiying criteria? Shouldn't it be posted in the respective hotel thread?
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Old Aug 19, 19, 8:26 am
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one question: what has all this conversation to do with the RA qualifiying criteria? Shouldn't it be posted in the respective hotel thread?
Yeah I suggested that 5 days ago in post 3507, but I guess it didn't take. We like discussing travel too much it seems.
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Old Aug 19, 19, 11:46 am
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Yeah I suggested that 5 days ago in post 3507, but I guess it didn't take. We like discussing travel too much it seems.
OK, back on topic.....

my guess is this year's threshold for renewal will be USD12K, and minimum three Intercon properties.

the only question in my mind is whether they will amalgamate spend from Kimpton stays?
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Old Aug 19, 19, 12:21 pm
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Regarding the discussion about the InterContinental Hotels in California ...

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one question: what has all this conversation to do with the RA qualifiying criteria? Shouldn't it be posted in the respective hotel thread?
Nothing, and this is the reason why I moved the post regarding San Francisco, Los Angeles und San Diego to its own thread, which could be found here:

Discussion of InterContinental Hotels in California - as Royal Ambassador

Please follow the discussion there.
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Old Aug 20, 19, 1:21 am
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OK, back on topic.....

my guess is this year's threshold for renewal will be USD12K, and minimum three Intercon properties.

the only question in my mind is whether they will amalgamate spend from Kimpton stays?
wouldn't be terribly bad - with this I should be almost there
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