New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria

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Old Mar 15, 19, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles View Post
In my experience this year, hard 2 cat upgrade no more and real restrictions on any upgrades beyond a base suite

Lounge access as before

Generally $50 (or local equivalent) minibar consumption capped at 4 days total, that may include taxes and restocking fees

One free night e-voucher

Some of us got Kimpton IC which I now value slightly higher than RA for my week to week stays
Many thanks LOM, teach me for tuning in and dropping out.

Ok the discussed min bar cap became real ... surprise and not great. And top end suites we still have to talk nicely to folks ... again not so much of a change in reality if a bit frustrating.

I don't recall seeing any Kimpton stuff but is not really on my radar.

And the renewal rules seem .... well, more up in the air than ever it feels like?
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Old Mar 15, 19, 1:08 pm
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I have not had any stays since Jan but have 27 nights across Bangkok and Hua Hin in mid April, I have to say that room allocation has been the same as always so no concerns there.

The thing that is concerning me is the mini bar as I have seen that its a 1600thb credit which will not go very far especialy in Bangkok.

I never minded Hua Hin policy of 1 time spirits as I find the club team quite generous through the day there with alcohol but I liked the soft drinks in the mini bar but now thats chargeable over 1600thb and for all of it after 4 days and Im there for 2 weeks
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Old Mar 15, 19, 6:13 pm
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<div style="text-align:left;">I just finished my first stay on March in the states and let you guys know that I got $20 ambassador credit. They said it’s an ambassador benefit so RA should also get it. But I’m not sure it’s a their mistake or a solid benefit. I hope it’s real.
had a one night stay two weeks back, they told me no suite upgrades anymore, base room was $389, they gave it to me for $209, due to previous stay history, said they cld only do up to one tier under 1 bed suite, king bed. i offered them $100 supplement, they gave me a one bed suite, the suites were going for $600 plus, i was happy with that.$309, plus i gave them abt $400 F&amp;B, so they shld have been happy with that as well..

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Old Mar 15, 19, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles View Post
In my experience this year, hard 2 cat upgrade no more and real restrictions on any upgrades beyond a base suite

Lounge access as before

Generally $50 (or local equivalent) minibar consumption capped at 4 days total, that may include taxes and restocking fees

One free night e-voucher

Some of us got Kimpton IC which I now value slightly higher than RA for my week to week stays
received the Inner Circle Welcome pack today.....
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Old Mar 15, 19, 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by shoven View Post
I have not had any stays since Jan but have 27 nights across Bangkok and Hua Hin in mid April, I have to say that room allocation has been the same as always so no concerns there.

The thing that is concerning me is the mini bar as I have seen that its a 1600thb credit which will not go very far especialy in Bangkok.

I never minded Hua Hin policy of 1 time spirits as I find the club team quite generous through the day there with alcohol but I liked the soft drinks in the mini bar but now thats chargeable over 1600thb and for all of it after 4 days and Im there for 2 weeks
book 4 stays, change the room category.
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Old Mar 15, 19, 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
had a one night stay two weeks back, they told me no suite upgrades anymore, base room was $389, they gave it to me for $209, due to previous stay history, said they cld only do up to one tier under 1 bed suite, king bed. i offered them $100 supplement, they gave me a one bed suite, the suites were going for $600 plus, i was happy with that.$309, plus i gave them abt $400 F&amp;B, so they shld have been happy with that as well..
Where was it? And did you get the $20 ambassador credit?
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Old Mar 16, 19, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
book 4 stays, change the room category.
Yeah I get that I could do that but I think having to do something like that is one of my main complaint about the changes, its an added hassle that was not there before and I simply don't have the desire to put the extra effort in for a few drinks.

It was very simple before for me personally, book 2 cats below the room I wanted (sometimes with a little bit of research) get club get minibar job done, relax and enjoy the holiday.
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Old Mar 16, 19, 10:17 am
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Where was it? And did you get the $20 ambassador credit?
at the Barclay, didn't get the ambassador credit............

$209 pretty good price point for this property.
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Old Mar 22, 19, 2:34 am
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Interesting. Looks like Tokyo will only cut the minibar benefit on Mar 1, not Feb 1.
sorry, what is this!?! will be staying there next week...
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Old Mar 23, 19, 11:13 am
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I have been staying at 2 ICs in Hong Kong, and even in the same area I see differences in either the operation or the interpretation of the upgrade policy.

@IC Hong Kong, booked superior junior suite, upgraded to deluxe junior suite, with a comment mentioning a one-level-upgrade policy re suite categories
In my case the assigned room is only a bit special one in that it is with a terrace, but... it does not look nice to include junior suites in the exemption list...

@IC Grand Standford Hong Kong, booked premier suite, upgraded to premier harbor view suite, with a comment mentioning a two-level upgrade policy

I understand there are some exceptions to the rules according to a guest's profile, but maybe T&Cs are interpreted differently from one property to another one
And the upgrade policy is neither a first matter nor the only one that I see such differences are occurring...

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