New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

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Old Jan 16, 19, 4:58 am
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@ all...do you think they do the check of the accounts maybe in sort of the last names...my one Starts with an U so should be quite at the end...
I have only the Royal Ambassador kit acctivity in my account, but until today no more and also no email...
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Old Jan 16, 19, 5:13 am
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So from this year, Kimpton stays will be included for RA qualification for sure?
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Old Jan 16, 19, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by scienm View Post
So from this year, Kimpton stays will be included for RA qualification for sure?
Am trying to find out too. Cos I have some travel trips to Taipei in Q2 this year and will be good to stay at the new Kimpton if this is included for RA qualification.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 6:37 am
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@ all...do you think they do the check of the accounts maybe in sort of the last names...my one Starts with an U so should be quite at the end...
I have only the Royal Ambassador kit acctivity in my account, but until today no more and also no email...
you could be right, my last name starts with a V and just noticed the RA status in my activity (no Kimpton status or activity)
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Old Jan 16, 19, 6:44 am
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I have written in earlier in Jan 2019 to request for manual review in view of a couple of adjusted stays. I was informed that I will be renewed and a line on 9 Jan 19 showed "Royal Ambassador Status". Today on 16 Jan 2019, I have gotten another similar line "Royal Ambassador Status". My last name starts with L.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 9:16 am
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Well now I am a bit miffed. People with lower stays and spend are getting RA... ::SADFACE::
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Old Jan 16, 19, 9:18 am
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Royal Ambassador status officially renewed for 2019.
App card says expiry 30 Dec 2019 with a 'Royal Ambassador Status' note showing in activity log.
For reference: I did not contact IHG at any point asking for a manual review.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 9:59 am
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.... The current minibar benefit means there is no stress about reaching in the fridge for a drink. No thought about the cost. Now with these new upcoming rules we will lose the real reason to have a minibar benefit. We will have to worry about how many drinks we've had, what each one costs, if really not happy about this.
For me the stress is not the cost of the drinks, but the fact that I maybe asked at check-out about consumption and therefore I have to keep track of my consumption (at least for the day of check-out) . I do not want to care about such stuff.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 10:11 am
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My account has also just been updated!
The activity line saying "Royal Ambassador Status" has appeared (no "kit" line yet); My current status already changed to Royal (first-time RA); And my Ambassador qualification expected to expire at the end of this month has been extended to the end of this year (no need to pay for the fee); No e-mail communication as yet.
I have not made any claim either.

I just hope all the mates here will receive an update soon!
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Old Jan 16, 19, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by serendipity1211 View Post
My account has also just been updated!
The activity line saying "Royal Ambassador Status" has appeared (no "kit" line yet); My current status already changed to Royal (first-time RA); And my Ambassador qualification expected to expire at the end of this month has been extended to the end of this year (no need to pay for the fee); No e-mail communication as yet.
I have not made any claim either.

I just hope all the mates here will receive an update soon!
Congrats! What were your stats for the year?
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Old Jan 16, 19, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by cazane View Post

For me the stress is not the cost of the drinks, but the fact that I maybe asked at check-out about consumption and therefore I have to keep track of my consumption (at least for the day of check-out) . I do not want to care about such stuff.
I was thinking along those lines also It's nice not to have the hasel of trying to remember what you did or did not have.
The cost is secondry if I want it I will, even though the prices can often be a bit over the top but the fact there is a credit limit to it I might stop and think about it which is also something I would rather not do.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 12:07 pm
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The whole minibar 'enhancement' is a huge fiasco for IHG / RA. For such a small cost (compared to many other potential top-tier benefits), it truly separated RA from the rest of the field. Free minibar - no questions.
If it is indeed the exemplified "minibar abusers" that has triggered this change, then enforcing the existing rules would have been more than sufficient to stop it. I quote from the current T&C:

"Beverages are complimentary from the mini-bar in the Royal Ambassador’s personal room only, and for in-room consumption by member only (benefit excludes non-beverage items)."

Simply put, if the empty bottles are nowhere to be found in the room, then the hotel has every right to charge the guest. Period. Obviously, I would assume that any hotel with a bit of 'fingerspitzengefühl' would look the other way for the occasional missing coke, beer, miniature vodka bottle etc. (who doesn't enjoy "one for the road" every now and then?), but cracking down on the obvious abuse would be easy enough. It would of course upset the guests in question (mostly because their behaviour has been exposed) - and perhaps even target some guests wrongfully - but overall the word would spread fast and the practice would cease to exist.

(Should have been) End of story.

Instead, they create a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy, for both the hotel and the guest. Plus they just couldn't control themselves when coming up with this 'masterplan'; they just had to implement a cost-cut with the USD 200 cap, which does nothing but to reveal the true nature of this 'enhancement'.

It will be interesting to see how each hotel decides to implement this rule. Will they turn to fine print and start charging for the excess coke (USD 3.50) or will they look the other way when the total minibar bill exceeds USD 300?

Time will tell.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
it may just be easier to cut and paste sharps1337's spreadsheet and dump in the Wiki.
Ill update tomorrow.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 12:49 pm
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Indeed, the magic and USP of free minibar is gone.

I do support punishing any abuse, but the rules were already clear enough to prevent just that, or bill the guest accordingly.

What is the real cost of those stolen minibar items?

What will now be the cost of the whole administration around this? Lost time on conflicts and discussions? And indeed most importantly, the now gone feature of RAs unique characteristic benefit. Looks penny wise, dollar foolish.

There are already hotels with a RA minibar. Will we now also have hotels with a RA minibar price list...?
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Old Jan 16, 19, 1:22 pm
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I wonder with the mini bar change have they considered how much room service dinning it generates?

I quite often get room service if feeling a bit lazy as you can also have a drink or two to go with it. I have a 16 night stay coming up in April and the $200 cap will be long gone well before its time to leave which in turn could push me to eat out more.
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