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Old Jun 18, 2016, 4:39 am
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Update 2023:
- it seems no new RA have been invited by IHG
- criteria for RA requalification are still unknown
- geographical location of member / country account registration seems of some impact due of covid19(restrictions/availability)
- RA is processed in weekly batches starting december 2022
- proof by nicolas75 shows RA qualification for 2024 seems to be strictly based on IC hotels only (not Regent, Kimpton, SixSenses anymore)

As per Tim O'Brien's post about IHG-corporate explaining RA criteria:

As you are aware,
Royal Ambassador is our invitation only tier with the number of members invited each year
limited to ensure our hotels are able to consistently deliver on the benefits promise,
elevating your stay experience at InterContinental Hotels & Resorts.

Although we do not currently have a published criteria for Royal Ambassador,
consideration is determined by variable activities within a members account such as
- qualified paid room nights & spend across our luxury brands (, 2023 EDIT: Post-Pandemic from 2024 InterContinental only : Pre-Pandemic also Kimpton & Regent ) ,
- member region,
- primary hotels,
- category (of the hotel class / €$ĄŁ price levels compared to currency rates / competition / city / region / country / continent )
- tenure (repeat custom / average spend at hotel)
Accompanying or adjoining reservations,
such as the additional rooms of your family etc are not included for Royal Ambassador consideration
but are included in determining Spire Elite status within IHG Rewards Club
.


* FT:IHG forum community group consensus / empirical evidence shows
- that members must have stayed at different unique hotels per city / country / region / continent
the amount of uniques needed for RA qualification is unknown but generally extended long stays at just 1 hotel do not qualify
- IHG-corporate showing keen interest in how much guests are spending €$ĄŁ at hotel's own operated F&B / Spa / transport / extra services / other venues
atacama40 has given us insights that extra spend at the hotel charged to the hotelfolio generates EQP but also flags the database as high valued spending guest
- one must have AMB to get considered for RA invitation by IHG as they seem to evaluate over a longer period the length of one's tenure / devotion / spend / undisclosed criteria at stayed IC-hotels

2024
Royal Ambassador 2024 (Re)Qualification - statistics

Thank you everyone who graciously shared their status and statistics. I took the liberty to compose an overview.
The common factor that is instantly recognisable is:
  • everyone has a valid AMB membership
  • everyone has spent a good amount in €$Ł
Shoven
IC: 69 N - 4 unique IC - $17400 - 2 unique country

AndyMick
IC: 96 N - 10 unique IC - 7 unique country - 164778 EQP

Ithink
IC: 78 N - 10 unique IC - Ł27000

Richelieu
~

ProjectSunburst
15 unique IC (USA) - $35000
Kimpton spend: $11000

Milleage Millionaire
IC: 100 N : 58 revenue & 42 award - 166514 EQP

Raynyan
~

Nicolas75
~

ILS2
$20000

HadesNL
IC: 41 N - 8 unique IC (2x USA, 1x UK, 3x EU, 1x Indonesia) 250458 EQP

Marlin1978
IC: 40 N - 9 unique IC (USA + EU) - $13000

HClee01
IC: 30 N - 6 unique IC - $8700
2x Kimpton / 1x Regent : 22 N - $7400

VAbeachgirl
IC: 88 N - 14 unique IC - 8 countries
2x Kimpton : 7 N
total $20000 (IC + Kimpton)

PremexecSNA
IHG : 85 N - 147000 EQP of which
90% revenue stay
85 % IC + Kimpton
10 unique IC
15 unique Kimpton

Darby1970
IC 100 N : 59 revenue of which
37 N : 11 unique IC (USA)& 4 (non-USA)
187682 EQP

Atacama40
IC + Kimpton : 40 N : UK, ME, Asia
Roomrate > Ł1000

EmeraldLady
11 unique IC : 4 continents
IHG: 87 N
$20000

Dmac1418
IC: 3 N - 2 unjque (IC Houston MC & IC San Diego)
6S Fiji $22000 (room: $10000 + spend $12000)

Smythmeister
~

Additional statistics can be found in the comments of LL
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/12/03/...4-share-yours/
The only other place on the whole interweb that has an interest in Royal Ambassador.
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2023
Below our FT-members from the IHG forum with RA status
some of whom have graciously shared their statistics to shed some light
-----------------------
Mileage millionaire: 155359 EQP - IC nights 58 - total nights 108 - unique IC 15
Shoven : $16000 - IC nights 49 - Kimpton nights 8 - total nights 57 - unique IC 5 - unique Kimpton 2 - [unique countries UK/Thailand]
Stimpy: overall stats higher than Shoven
Nicholas75 : 230236 EQP - 93 EQN
Raynyan : 190000 EQP - IC/Kimpton nights 90 - unique IC/Kimpton 10
Vsevolod4 : $24000 - IC nights 67 - total nights 87
Vabeachgirl : $17500 - IC nights 75 - Kimpton nights 4 - total nights 79 - unique properties 13 [unique countries 7]
Hclee01: >$12600 - >156K EQP - 54 EQN - unique IC 3 - unique Kimpton 1 - unique Regent 2 [unique countries Singapore/Thailand/Taiwan/Japan]
Chinatrvl :
Ithink : 220.000 EQP - 47 EQN
Ninjalad : 150000 EQP - IC nights 34
Andymick : 145000 EQP - IC nights 100
Gentleman adventurer :
Marlin1978 :
Pseudo nim :
Hadesnl : 250000 EQP - Kimpton/IC nights 30 - 44 EQN - unique IC 3 - unique Kimpton 2 [unique countries UK/NL/FRA/Indonesia]
Itadakimasu : 120000 EQP - IC nights 12 - 51 EQN
Atacama40 : >Ł25000 - IC nights 60 - unique IC 8 - unique Kimpton 1
Eein : corporate rates global & local
Raynyan's friends : RA extension because their account is Japanese registered
Tim O'Brien: after own friendly persuasion effort : $8,500 - IC nights 79 of which 49 at pres.suite - unique IC 4 [unique countries US/AUS/CAN]


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The only other place on the internet that has an interest in RA (re)qualification statistics is at the comments at Loyaltylobby,
more 2023 RA datapoints can be found there:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2022/12/09/...re-your-stats/
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/01/18/...re-your-stats/



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Update 2020 / 2021:
RA status was extended due to the global pandemic of covid19


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Update 2019: The RA status granted at the start of the calendar year 2017 and 2018 has been based on IC revenue. As from 2019 criteria again have become vague. RA is not achieved through IC spend only. Other, unknown elements are taken into account as well. (Fact: Some users with very high +25k IC spend were not renewed in 2019.)

Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend
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December 2019 / January 2020 Link to RA Renewals & Upgrades
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JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD
Lewis42 / 81 Total (unknown IC) / $16k IC / $2k Kimpton / 4 Continents
81 nights total
$18k Kimpton / IC (about $2k kimpton)
stays in 4 continents

been Ra for ~3-4 years

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria

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There was an ongoing discussion about the criteria for some time. This thread is now closed.

update from Executive Liaison Sept, 2023,
spend at other IHG luxury brands does count for RA, and Renewal.
Brands weren't stated, but reasonable to assume Six Senses, Regent, and Kimpton.

















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Old Jan 3, 2019, 11:23 pm
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
I understand the hotels put quite some pressure on IHG to cut RA numbers as a quid pro quo for regularising lounge access, among other benefits. They finally stopped the oddness of referral certificates and then started the Big Cull of existing members.

A view I gained in hotel chit chat over recent weeks is that a new team feels the need to churn to be recognised as doing something. Status quo, steady as she goes, doesn't get promotions. And if things don't work out well, they can always back-track. The problem here is that it takes time for the impacts of these types of change to show, and then even longer to restore confidence - witness BA and it's Buy-on-Board initiative.
Obviously without full knowledge of how RA is ultimately bestowed (which I am not entirely sure that many at IHG understand either), it is difficult to be sure but the numbers here are interesting aren't they.

My average spend per night at IC's was something like $580, with a significant proportion of that (my best estimate is 25%) being F&B spend.

There are examples here of those getting requalification with total spend a little higher than mine but with dramatically lower average spend per night (some it seems as low as $180 per night) and I assume this level of average nightly spend is only possible by not going wild with F&B.

If I were the property owner I would be much more interested in attracting higher rev per night RA's than those who hit an arbitrary cumulative spend threshold. That makes bestowing RA benefits a much better value proposition form the properties perspective. Obviously I have a personal axe to grind but it would be good business.
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Old Jan 3, 2019, 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles
Obviously without full knowledge of how RA is ultimately bestowed (which I am not entirely sure that many at IHG understand either), it is difficult to be sure but the numbers here are interesting aren't they.

My average spend per night at IC's was something like $580, with a significant proportion of that (my best estimate is 25%) being F&B spend.

There are examples here of those getting requalification with total spend a little higher than mine but with dramatically lower average spend per night (some it seems as low as $180 per night) and I assume this level of average nightly spend is only possible by not going wild with F&B.

If I were the property owner I would be much more interested in attracting higher rev per night RA's than those who hit an arbitrary cumulative spend threshold. That makes bestowing RA benefits a much better value proposition form the properties perspective. Obviously I have a personal axe to grind but it would be good business.
Yeah but you do have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere. Is someone spending $1,000 per night (let’s say $700 room and $300 F&B) for nine nights across two ICs a more valuable client than one spending $200 per night, no F&B and 50 nights across 20 ICs?

There should probably be some manual evaluation and fuzzier guidelines though, considering this is a supposedly “invite only” status. For example, we know American’s ConciergeKey requires “a lot” of spend - but it’s also influenced by factors like who you are, what budget approval power you wield and so on. That’s a true invite-only status. RA has become a bit of an odd joke.
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien
FYI. Re new Club Lounge policy..............

i was chatting with a Club Lounge manager in Montreal two days ago who told me on New Year's day that a new policy had been implemented in all IC's, to no longer provide hot food in club lounges, and provide cold appetizer style food, crudities, cheeses, breads, etc, with hand delivered small plates to each guest with four canapes.

i can't see that being implemented in Asian properties successfully, given the standards, and competition.
That sounds like a Canadian policy, which matches what Starwood and probably Marriott had/has. I'm at an Euro IC now which has zero intention of changing it's Club and the wonderful dinner service they have. Although they did confirm the mini-bar policy change is coming soon.
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Originally Posted by stimpy
That sounds like a Canadian policy, which matches what Starwood and probably Marriott had/has. I'm at an Euro IC now which has zero intention of changing it's Club and the wonderful dinner service they have. Although they did confirm the mini-bar policy change is coming soon.
Canadian lounge policy has already been garbage,
so hardly any surprise there.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles
...If I were the property owner I would be much more interested in attracting higher rev per night RA's than those who hit an arbitrary cumulative spend threshold. That makes bestowing RA benefits a much better value proposition form the properties perspective. Obviously I have a personal axe to grind but it would be good business.
But it's not a programme run for the benefit of one hotel, or even for hotels alone: the wider good (in IHG terms) might well be served by having guests who travel widely, staying by instinct at ICs.

reductio ad absurdum suggests that a spend per night metric wouldn't be helpful alone: just one stay at your level being unlikely to launch fireworks at IHG Towers. Total spend makes more sense (to IHG) if a bald metric is to be applied, but they'd be foolish not to look at total nights and nights outside the IC brand, but within the IHG portfolio.

We've had and are having these changes in the airline world as well. There's no right way or wrong way. For status in their FFP Lufthansa plumped for rewarding revenue, while British Airways remains happy to say thank you for miles flown (with just a nod to revenue considerations). Time will tell which is the most successful approach, though my money is on BA.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien
FYI. Re new Club Lounge policy..............

i was chatting with a Club Lounge manager in Montreal two days ago who told me on New Year's day that a new policy had been implemented in all IC's, to no longer provide hot food in club lounges, and provide cold appetizer style food, crudities, cheeses, breads, etc, with hand delivered small plates to each guest with four canapes.I

i can't see that being implemented in Asian properties successfully, given the standards, and competition.
That is exactly what IC Bangkok has been doing for approx 2years now each evening. One reason why despite foc IC minibar I often stay at the Conrad instead.

IC Pattaya also does exactly this too.

IC Kul still has it's chef station, and in Europe apart from IC Berlin I have been happy with offerings.
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
But it's not a programme run for the benefit of one hotel, or even for hotels alone: the wider good (in IHG terms) might well be served by having guests who travel widely, staying by instinct at ICs.

reductio ad absurdum suggests that a spend per night metric wouldn't be helpful alone: just one stay at your level being unlikely to launch fireworks at IHG Towers. Total spend makes more sense (to IHG) if a bald metric is to be applied, but they'd be foolish not to look at total nights and nights outside the IC brand, but within the IHG portfolio.

We've had and are having these changes in the airline world as well. There's no right way or wrong way. For status in their FFP Lufthansa plumped for rewarding revenue, while British Airways remains happy to say thank you for miles flown (with just a nod to revenue considerations). Time will tell which is the most successful approach, though my money is on BA.
My money is on BA moving to a substantially revenue base by the end of the year, it is the ultimate culmination of everything else they have done. I very much expect Avios redemption to move to a revenue base in the not too distant future. This in part is why I cashed down from over 1M avios and have pretty much abandoned loyalty to airlines in favour of choosing the airlines I want to use for a particular trip on the basis of their product and service relative to price.

My point about average spend per stay and average F&B etc. is relevant to squaring the circle between IHG and those who own and in many cases operate IC's. Sure the simple view from IHG is they get a % vig on all revenue so they want as much overall revenue as possible. Others have noted that there is a tension between properties expected to lavish RA's with freebies and historical evidence that the average RA is low spending especially upon extras (remember the leaked PPT which implied that a typical AMB was more valuable).

A simple total cumulative spend does nothing to indicate to properties that a RA is worth lavishing with upgrades and freebies. A high spend per night (beyond the absurdity of a 2 nights stay in a very expensive room) with significant non room spend does at least dangle a carrot to the properties too.
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The official invitation mail just arrived! We can start to analyze the data now. Because the wiki seems not too crowded I put up an excel with all the responses in the forum:


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The most interesting data points seem to be Cielito_'s and cazane's. Also it seems that Lewis42 is an outlier, who just got the invite because of the challenge.
  • Have all of you who have gotten the message event, also got the mail invite and all who haven't have not?
This would indicate that the threshold would be between these values if there were not the following outliers:
  • @336/ILS2/christenlabelle Do you have an idea why you have not received the message? Maybe not completed the challenge or to low number of different ICs?
  • @annihilation Have you received an invitation letter? Your wording was not clear if you meant not receiving the RA message or being an current RA.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 11:17 am
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: IHG RA, IHG IC, HH DM, MPC GM
Posts: 64
I got my RA Kit post on 21/12. $19,582 IC spend, 45 IC Stays, 16 IC Properties, 6 countries. received RA challenge offer on 7/11 with and achieved the challenge in a day by 8/11.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 11:22 am
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,443
Received the 2k challenge. Did not complete.

8 different ICs. At least 16 nights. Lots of adjusted stays, or which had trouble posting.

No mail. No account activity.

A minimum of 20 paid IC nights needed?
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 11:35 am
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 88
To add my numbers as a data point: 4 different ICs, 5 nights, 11.297,88 USD total spend, 13.532,92 USD total qualified spending
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 11:39 am
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: EU
Programs: IHG Diamond / RA / IC | LH FTL + United Gold
Posts: 59
Originally Posted by Mr. Chan
I got my RA Kit post on 21/12. $19,582 IC spend, 45 IC Stays, 16 IC Properties, 6 countries. received RA challenge offer on 7/11 with and achieved the challenge in a day by 8/11.
Then you are a new RA (conclusion on the 21/12 date)? If so, maybe just we have got the mail yet and not the renewals.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 11:44 am
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: IHG RA, IHG IC, HH DM, MPC GM
Posts: 64
New RA
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 12:03 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 21
My RA Kit was posted on 27/12. $14,182 IC spend, 46 IC Stays in 10 IC Properties, received no challenge.
What I also notice about all the numbers I'm recalling a few months ago talking to a club manager about the issue of qualifying for RA status. He also said that no one knows for sure, but according to his knowledge counts the turnover, frequency of overnight stays and probably general "behavior" of the member in the hotels / a more or less specific "rating". This general "behavior" made me skeptical at first (I had never heard of it before), but reading statistics in combination with RA experience thread or general other loyalty websites with some more or less comprehensible "peculiarities" there may well be a spark of truth behind it - certain similarities, what IAN-UK wrote.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 12:28 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 167
I did not get any challenge, was already RA in 2018, and never got an RA invite mail in the last days or years.
i had two prepaid stays posting after Dec. 27th, which add 4 nights (61 instead of 57 as of 27th) and spent of 12600 $ instead of 11890.
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