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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

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Old Nov 24, 18, 1:10 am
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So, I got the email touting RA if I stayed once at Kimpton and spent $1k at IC by year end. Conveniently, that was right before a Kimpton stay. As for the $1k, I had already prepaid over $1k for a stay this week at IC Sípore (from which I write). Of course, the points from the prepaid stay wonít post until after I check out. Any insight onto whether the revenue from the prepaid stay will count to satisfy the $1k required spend for RA, or was that already counted and I need $1k more?

Would staff in the lounge here have any view into my account to see this? I could ask them.

Never been RA before. Would be nice to have.

Not sure what my total spend is this year, but likely already over $10k and have 60 nights posted already. Seven more in the pipeline.
the spend accrues to the account after your stay.

it hasn't been counted.

i'd bet you'll fulfill the challenge at the end of your current SIN stay.

congratulations on making the hurdle.
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the spend accrues to the account after your stay.

it hasn't been counted.

i'd bet you'll fulfill the challenge at the end of your current SIN stay.

congratulations on making the hurdle.
Great news. Thanks for sharing your insight.

Assuming youíre right, which I certainly hope you are, when should the invitation be extended? Right after completing the requirements, as with airline elite status, or is it strictly annual beginning early next year?
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Great news. Thanks for sharing your insight.

Assuming you’re right, which I certainly hope you are, when should the invitation be extended? Right after completing the requirements, as with airline elite status, or is it strictly annual beginning early next year?
if consistent with the past two years shld be on or about Jan 4

although with caveat, given it was a challenge, they may let you know sooner.
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Old Nov 25, 18, 12:23 am
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Great news. Thanks for sharing your insight.

Assuming youíre right, which I certainly hope you are, when should the invitation be extended? Right after completing the requirements, as with airline elite status, or is it strictly annual beginning early next year?
You got the answer in your email. The terms and conditions of the royal ambassador challenge say:
​If you meet the criteria, you will receive a Royal Ambassador invitation by 31 January 2019 and will be upgraded to Royal Ambassador status by 4 February 2019. This offer is only valid for the person who received this email communication.​​​​​​
I think they will not upgrade the people before they implemented some changes to RA beginning February 1st. I.e. the minibar credit.
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You got the answer in your email. The terms and conditions of the royal ambassador challenge say:


I think they will not upgrade the people before they implemented some changes to RA beginning February 1st. I.e. the minibar credit.
this may be telling us more than just about the RA Challenge................

there has been some frustration over the past two years in relation to the elimination of the preceding 30-90 day assessment period.

remember back in time when we would be evaluated for the previous year at the end of Oct, if we didn't qualify, they'd evaluate again, at the end of Nov for the preceding year, and then again, if still not qualified, at the end of Dec. a few bites at the cherry.

in the past two years it has been as at the end of Dec, and then announced Jan 4th. with uncertainty, not knowing if qualified, or re-qualified, what to do about forward bookings for the month of Jan.

i speculate now that they've extended RA from Dec 31 to Jan 30, they may be evaluating at end of Dec ( possibly announcing Jan 4th), and again, at end of Jan, with announcement at beginning of Feb ( if not qualified by Jan 4th)

at least that way, those not qualified by Jan 4th, could alter most of their Jan bookings (if refundable) to other groups in need be, or leave bookings in place in hope of qualifying by end of Jan. IHG cld set challenges if not qualified by end of December, for Jan stays.
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this may be telling us more than just about the RA Challenge................
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i speculate now that they've extended RA from Dec 31 to Jan 30, they may be evaluating at end of Dec ( possibly announcing Jan 4th), and again, at end of Jan, with announcement at beginning of Feb ( if not qualified by Jan 4th)
I hope you are right. I would be little mad if they just postpone on month.
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So I didn't receive the challenge email... I have over $12k IC spend this year and around 65 IC nights at 12 different ICs in 6 different countries. Had one Kimpton stay over the summer. Wondering if I should start worrying?
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So I didn't receive the challenge email... I have over $12k IC spend this year and around 65 IC nights at 12 different ICs in 6 different countries. Had one Kimpton stay over the summer. Wondering if I should start worrying?
I think youíre ok. Your total spend and variety of different ICís will be similar to mine (AFTER the challenge is completed).

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if consistent with the past two years shld be on or about Jan 4

although with caveat, given it was a challenge, they may let you know sooner.
This is one of the conflicting aspects to the RA programme. Iím at $14.5k for 2018, and had booked a ę staycation Ľ in my home city as well as a long weekend in Asia, both in Jan, to celebrate my (hoped for) new status

So if next year is announced in Feb...or if the assumed goalposts for qualification have moved, I canít genuinely complain as IHG have not published the 4 Jan date, nor the qualification threshold.

And yet Iíll cancel my Jan stays and $2k of business to IHG. It wonít get postponed or move to another programme, itís just gone. A lose lose situation, really.
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This is one of the conflicting aspects to the RA programme. Iím at $14.5k for 2018, and had booked a ę staycation Ľ in my home city as well as a long weekend in Asia, both in Jan, to celebrate my (hoped for) new status

So if next year is announced in Feb...or if the assumed goalposts for qualification have moved, I canít genuinely complain as IHG have not published the 4 Jan date, nor the qualification threshold.

And yet Iíll cancel my Jan stays and $2k of business to IHG. It wonít get postponed or move to another programme, itís just gone. A lose lose situation, really.
In Jan 2018, Saltlake initially processed RA status as in 2017 on 4th Jan with expiry 31Dec, but then circa 18th Jan this got changed to expiry 31Jan.

In my mind an improvement, avoids those Ambassadors needing their Xmas->New Year onwards (say checkin 24th Dec checkout 5th Jan stays that post 10th Jan) to be picked up. Plus existing bordeline-renewing RA's can book into new year (Jan) knowing they get RA benefits.

The downside is non-RA Plain-Ambassadors in 2018 who believe they qualify as RA for 2019 , will not get RA on Jan4th as in 2017 and 2018, but Feb 1st or thereabouts, so not get the extra RA benefits for Jan2019 so may hold off booking costlier IC nights in Jan2019 in favour of cheaper non-IC nights. Maybe not worth saving as the Jan2019 IC $$$ spend counts towards renewing RA for 2020.
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This is one of the conflicting aspects to the RA programme. Iím at $14.5k for 2018, and had booked a ę staycation Ľ in my home city as well as a long weekend in Asia, both in Jan, to celebrate my (hoped for) new status

So if next year is announced in Feb...or if the assumed goalposts for qualification have moved, I canít genuinely complain as IHG have not published the 4 Jan date, nor the qualification threshold.

And yet Iíll cancel my Jan stays and $2k of business to IHG. It wonít get postponed or move to another programme, itís just gone. A lose lose situation, really.
i'm suggesting if you've made the hurdle by end of Dec, you'll know on Jan 4th, if our minds are in line with IHG ( a scary thought) you will qualify with your spend for 2018, and receive notification on Jan 4th, so you have no worry about the possibility of a second bite of the cherry during the month of January.
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The downside is non-RA Plain-Ambassadors in 2018 who believe they qualify as RA for 2019 , will not get RA on Jan4th as in 2017 and 2018, but Feb 1st or thereabouts, so not get the extra RA benefits for Jan2019 so may hold off booking costlier IC nights in Jan2019 in favour of cheaper non-IC nights. Maybe not worth saving as the Jan2019 IC $$$ spend counts towards renewing RA for 2020.

there's a reasonable chance they'll revert to their old playbook, time will tell.

i guess we'll have a better idea around Jan 4th.

we may see the first round of renewals on or about Jan 4th for those that have hit the hurdle by end of December, and the second round, in early February, for those that have hit it by end of January.

it would be more sensible than the past two years.

better still, they could revert to the entire historical playbook, and evaluate at the end of Oct, Nov, and Dec.
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i'm suggesting if you've made the hurdle by end of Dec, you'll know on Jan 4th, if our minds are in line with IHG.
Obviously Iím hoping this is how it works out.

Iíd assumed that extending membership this year to 31st Jan was to pacify existing RAs nervous about booking during the limbo period before 4 Jan announcements.

If the RA year end moving to 31 Jan also means requalification moving to 4 Feb, the they havenít fixed the 4 day gap, theyíve just moved by a month.
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If the RA year end moving to 31 Jan also means requalification moving to 4 Feb, the they havenít fixed the 4 day gap, theyíve just moved by a month.
Yes, that's why i'm hopeful they are giving us two bites at the cherry. irrespective of whether the hurdle is accomplished by end of Dec (announced Jan 4), or end of Jan (announced Feb 4?), i would expect the year end to remain end of Jan for all.

can't see why they don't do what they used to, evaluating end of Oct, Nov, and Dec.
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Yes, that's why i'm hopeful they are giving us two bites at the cherry. irrespective of whether the hurdle is accomplished by end of Dec (announced Jan 4), or end of Jan (announced Feb 4?), i would expect the year end to remain end of Jan for all.

can't see why they don't do what they used to, evaluating end of Oct, Nov, and Dec.
I don't see any reason to think there is two bites at RA. The spend at IC still needs to be the calendar year 1st Jan - 31st Dec nights. If you fall short of the RA spend target during 2018 calendar year it is false to conclude that Jan2019 IC spend would be counted if your 2018 spend is too low for RA level.

Issue with processing on 4th Jan is any 'borderline' cases staying at IC on multinight Xmas-Jan stays into early Jan2019 would not get nights posted and thus counted until maybe Jan 10th at earliest. Thus it makes sense to me that Saltlake delay processing until later in January, and as a consequence set processing as 1st Feb with RA expiry 31st Jan rather than 31st Dec seems very reasonable.

For current RAs who know they won't requalify for 2019, as this is first year with 31st Jan expiry, I would not rely on that RA status to not dissapear mid January onwards. This afterall is why other hotel loyalty schemes whilst using calendar year qualification, process status feb/march, eg Marriott
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