New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

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Old Jan 24, 18, 5:56 pm
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Lets hope IHG expand the Kimpton brand outside of North America otherwise any RA benefit won't be of any use to those that don't travel to the USA.
yes, i wld expect to see them develop Kimpton outside of NA

other than Hualuxe, aren't most of the other brands multi continent?
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if you're in Asia, you're pretty well covered, mainland China, what four in PVG......

two in HK.........
Am hoping that they may consider having a IC in Taipei. Currently, they have a HI in Taipei which is out of the way and a HIX which is nearer to the Taoyuan Airport, and not in central taipei.
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Am hoping that they may consider having a IC in Taipei. Currently, they have a HI in Taipei which is out of the way and a HIX which is nearer to the Taoyuan Airport, and not in central taipei.
It would make sense they have pretty good coverage in Asia so I don't see why not, I would also like to see a second IC in Bangkok the one they have is always pretty full from my time there.
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i'd send an email, and ask for a review, given you're so close.
Renewed RA in the second wave 16th Jan. Not sure if this was due to my email to them or a second round of qualification in their lovely IT system.
Got the following reply:
”Your account has been reviewed and you've been upgraded to Royal Ambassador. It seems that there was a system glitch, however, it has been fixed.”
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Renewed RA in the second wave 16th Jan. Not sure if this was due to my email to them or a second round of qualification in their lovely IT system.
Got the following reply:
”Your account has been reviewed and you've been upgraded to Royal Ambassador. It seems that there was a system glitch, however, it has been fixed.”
good to hear
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Old Jan 26, 18, 6:04 am
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yes, i wld expect to see them develop Kimpton outside of NA

other than Hualuxe, aren't most of the other brands multi continent?
Hualuxe is awesome! They should include that too for RA.

I hope at some bigger cities they will have IC's soon. Not just more in China.
going to try the new one in Singapore soon.
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Hualuxe is awesome! They should include that too for RA.

I hope at some bigger cities they will have IC's soon. Not just more in China.
going to try the new one in Singapore soon.
yes, would be good to see them introduce the Ambassador Program to their top tier brands, Kimpton, and Hualuxe.

and they would do well to expand the footprint in Europa, and the US.

in Italia alone, they cld do Roma, Firenze, and Siena.
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Thumbs up

looks like they've attempted to fix the Jan renewal issue, by ending to end of Jan.

i receieved my RA pack today, and the expirary date on the card has changed to Jan 31, 2019.

Good solution.

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VERY good solution. Mine was the same. And included a nice business card case. That is new.
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looks like they've attempted to fix the Jan renewal issue, by ending to end of Jan.

i receieved my RA pack today, and the expirary date on the card has changed to Jan 31, 2019.

Good solution.
o We were already aware the second sweep/wave of RA's circa 10Jan2018 were given 31Jan2018 expiry so I was kinda hoping the 4th Jan original renewals would get too.
o Interesting (as still waiting on RA Pack)..... Checked Web and App
1)IHG.COM (https://www.ihg.com/rewardsclub/gb/e...rshipMaterials) still shows RA card expiry as 31Dec2018
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2)App (Android Phone) Virtual card expiry now updated from 30Dec2018 to 31Jan2019
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My app shows 31 Jan 2019 but website still shows 31 Dec 2018 only noticed it yesterday but still no RA pack so will wait and see, was wondering when the pack might turn up hopefully next week if others are starting to receive there's.
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VERY good solution. Mine was the same. And included a nice business card case. That is new.
i received that business card wallet last year as well, still sitting on my desk.....unused
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I still don't have any kit or anything.
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o We were already aware the second sweep/wave of RA's circa 10Jan2018 were given 31Jan2018 expiry so I was kinda hoping the 4th Jan original renewals would get too.
o Interesting (as still waiting on RA Pack)..... Checked Web and App
1)IHG.COM (https://www.ihg.com/rewardsclub/gb/e...rshipMaterials) still shows RA card expiry as 31Dec2018
but
2)App (Android Phone) Virtual card expiry now updated from 30Dec2018 to 31Jan2019
i can't even access my account to see if the date's been updated..

On Feb 8th just before midnight i tried to check my account online, and it stated: "We have temporarily disabled your account due to a possible conflict with the IHG® Rewards Club Terms and Conditions. To resolve this issue, please contact us for assistance."s

to me, the implication being, I had done something in conflict.

i had a back surgery schedualed the next morning, in about eight hours time, at 8am.

I called, asked for a supervisor, and Nicole told me it was a random audit.

upon return from hospital, still distressed about it, i phoned again, asked for a supervisor i know, spoke with Pinky, and she told me what was told to me was incorrect information, not random audit, but fraud, where 4.675M points had been swiped from my account, and spent at Apple or similar online store fraudulently. ie stolen from my account.

Now 10 days later, no communication, no appology, still no access to my account.

it caused me enormous stress, late the night before hospitalisation. Loss of 935 PointBreaks nights, plenty to stress over.....

they limit us to 4 digit pins, just crazy, and totally incompetent IT managment.

loyal customers shouldn't have to put up with that anywhere.

the solution for the customer, should be to put the points back in the account, make it accessible for the customer, and continue with their fraud investigation on the account. they would have to know by now that it was another party that perpetrated the fraud.

incredibly disappointed now, over 10 days later, still remains unresolved.

considering two options, legal action, or reaching out to contacts at the corporate level in the UK.

they really do a good job of pissing off customers.

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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
i can't even access my account to see if the date's been updated..

On Feb 8th just before midnight i tried to check my account online, and it stated: "We have temporarily disabled your account due to a possible conflict with the IHG® Rewards Club Terms and Conditions. To resolve this issue, please contact us for assistance."s

to me, the implication being, I had done something in conflict.

i had a back surgery schedualed the next morning, in about eight hours time, at 8am.

I called, asked for a supervisor, and Nicole told me it was a random audit.

upon return from hospital, still distressed about it, i phoned again, asked for a supervisor i know, spoke with Pinky, and she told me what was told to me was incorrect information, not random audit, but fraud, where 4.675M points had been swiped from my account, and spent at Apple or similar online store fraudulently. ie stolen from my account.

Now 10 days later, no communication, no appology, still no access to my account.

it caused me enormous stress, late the night before hospitalisation. Loss of 935 PointBreaks nights, plenty to stress over.....

they limit us to 4 digit pins, just crazy, and totally incompetent IT managment.

loyal customers shouldn't have to put up with that anywhere.

the solution for the customer, should be to put the points back in the account, make it accessible for the customer, and continue with their fraud investigation on the account. they would have to know by now that it was another party that perpetrated the fraud.

incredibly disappointed now, over 10 days later, still remains unresolved.

considering two options, legal action, or reaching out to contacts at the corporate level in the UK.

they really do a good job of pissing off customers.
Tim,
Very sorry to hear this.
More importantly, hope the reason for the hospital visit has resolved itself.
I trust that the wonderful , world class, Royal Ambassador service in Makati is able to resolve this for you in the next 3 to 6 hours.
You know, World’s best practise and all of that.
Please be safe.
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