New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria

A document was unintenionally available in the internet about changes to the (Royal) Ambassador Qualifying and Re-Qualifying criteria.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by scubaccr View Post
Hmmn .... If every non-RA Amb in IHGs database was selected from the database for the "incorrect email re welcome to RA 2018" , and writes/emails to complain + gets a result of RA, then for 2018 100% of Ambassadors will be RA, and RAs will get zero upgrades etc
yes, and if every person in the world got that email, it would be even more...

How do we know it was in error though. I reported it here as an error, since it felt strange to requalify for me, but I never got a corrective email unlike the people here who reported getting a downgrade email. Personally, I never received information about losing RA, it just happened automatically on Jan 4. I wasn’t surprised though, because of my 2017 pattern. But maybe they think I’ve been a good customer for many years and allow me to have a dip one year, I don’t know.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 12:52 am
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Did you forward the 'invitation' to anyone or contacted service centre?
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Old Jan 17, 18, 1:08 am
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I am also facing similar issues with currency conversion and conflicting email/acct information. I had some late December nights at Paris Le Grand that I thought would push me over the required spend. I've been RA for the last two years but did have a slower year in 2017. Here is a summary of my issues:

Jan 3 - Checked the app and I was still RA.
Jan 7 - Received email from IC Saigon welcoming me as RA
Jan 8 - Received email from IC Saigon welcoming me as Spire Amb
Jan 9 - Checked into IC Saigon and was informed that I had been downgraded.
Jan 10 - Checked out from IC Saigon
Jan 12 - Received email confirming my RA renewal
Jan 12 - Checked into IC GS HK and was granted RA privileges upon showing the team the email. They mentioned this has been happening to many guests
Jan 15 - Checked in IC SZ and again had to discuss with the team. RA privileges granted after a bit of an internal debate between the staff.

I've called the IHG line twice (12 and 15 Jan) and they said they needed more time to review my case. I should be just over $10k with the correct currency exchange rates and my late December stay in Paris. I also have around $3500 worth of stays booked in January so I'm hoping they take this into consideration.

For those who are downgraded some advance communication would have been nice. What a disastrous handling of this!

I'll update here once I know the final result.
RA confirmed this morning through December 2018.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 1:33 am
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Couldn't it just be that the requalification criteria are softer?

04/01: first review on all ambassador / RA accounts, if > threshold --> RA
approx 12/01: second review on RA population of prior year versus somewhat lower threshold --> RA requalification

Guess we will never know. IHG's weird ways are sometimes also rewarding for some. No need to envy the ones that slipped through upon second review...
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Originally Posted by scubaccr View Post
Hmmn .... If every non-RA Amb in IHGs database was selected from the database for the "incorrect email re welcome to RA 2018" , and writes/emails to complain + gets a result of RA, then for 2018 100% of Ambassadors will be RA, and RAs will get zero upgrades etc

scubaccr, in the email they told me that my RA status is good for 31 Jan 2019 but my e-card shows only Dec 2018. Do you it's good idea to call and claim the extra month? LOL

Relax my friend, I think what you said is not accurate:

1- I believe the error email was sent to only RA member who didn't meet the criteria. So if we assume that each downgraded RA will given a chance to maintain status this year, the worse scenario would be an increase of (0.5~.08%) in RA numbers from total AMB majority. (RA = 1% of AMB members).

2- Zero upgrades and etc....? Well I don't think so. Hyatt and Hilton offered a top level status match before and everyone eventually survived!

3- I've been a good RA member for many years, spent good money, was patient on their missing nights/points/kit/criteria and etc.. with IHG.
So from a marketing point of view; where is the harm of bringing Voucher and other RA's business to us again?
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Old Jan 17, 18, 3:06 am
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After an email to CEO/exec office, after 1 hour an reply with apologies and royal to end 2018. With 13k+7k spend should have gone automatic but due to hack wasn't done.
Emailing took to long time (3 weeks since hack) so this solved it. now i can plan my IC stays.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 4:41 am
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Without any email communication back to IHG after the downgrade and the subsequent welcome back letter, my account now shows Royal Ambassador again and the activity Royal Ambassador Renewal. Nice.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 5:04 am
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[QUOTE=scubaccr;29301888]Would be interested in your estimated usd??++ (ie before taxes spend) qualifying rate spend at IC and non-IC spend ? And from any others that did indeed get RA from the supposed mistake email.
So I just did a rough estimate and surprised myself. 84 nights in IHG of which 38 were IC at Singapore, Seoul Grand Parnas and Coex, Tokyo ANA and Osaka. My estimated spend worked out at 10,850 USD at IC only. More than 75% of my spend was in the second half of the year at IC. Not sure if that made any difference.

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Relax my friend, I think what you said is not accurate:
Lost in translation... my post is meant to be .... off humour and not to be taken seriously
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Old Jan 17, 18, 5:39 am
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Also RA again. I did a quick check on spend, as posted earlier here their FX rates are off. Looks like I was pretty close spend wise after all.
I am very glad with RA again and subsequently they will see plenty of business from me this year.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 5:52 am
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Also RA again. I did a quick check on spend, as posted earlier here their FX rates are off. Looks like I was pretty close spend wise after all.
I am very glad with RA again and subsequently they will see plenty of business from me this year.
Spooky! I seem to be shadowing you in this messy process..
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Old Jan 17, 18, 7:46 am
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The usual RA cluster***k January.
I turned up at the Sydney IC on the 4th and was welcomed as an RA.
I then discovered during my stay that I was no longer an RA and my benefits were no longer available as my lounge key didn't work.
Showed them my confirmation that said RA and got my benefits back. Was billed mini-bar on checkout and had to get them to remove.
Received a January statement on the 11th that said I was an RA, but website said I was just an A.
Called Customer Service on the 11th who said I had been downgraded!. I had 67 nights, 7 different IC properties and $18.5K spend (most of which was at ICs)
Asked them to send me the breakdown of my spend and stays. They said it would take 3-5 days. Didn't ask for a review (though I guess they probably figured that was implied)
Received an email on the 13th saying RA Renewal. Never received any details.
Received an update on my account that said on the 16th "Royal Ambassador Status" and one now appearing backdated the 4th saying "Royal Ambassador Renewal"
Expiry apparently January 31st 2019.
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All in all very happy to get renewed but amazed at the Byzantine nature of this.
The moral of the story, be polite get the facts from their accounts department and I suspect that if you are borderline but with previous good history they'll look kindly on you.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 8:27 am
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The moral of the story, be polite get the facts from their accounts department and I suspect that if you are borderline but with previous good history they'll look kindly on you.
I wasn't even borderline and I got renewed. My estimate is approx 30 IC nights and $5000 IC spend. I didn't even make it up to Spire last year. As posted above, I never received info about being downgraded, it just happened on the 4th. Then I got the email and yesterday my account said RA etc.
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Old Jan 17, 18, 9:20 am
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I think so too. If the CEO gets spammed, it normally has consequences. For me it is still showing "Spire Ambassador", no E-Mail helped yet. I think I give it up.

But I also did not get that mail.
if you haven't got a response from Canty?, and you're over the USD10K net hurdle, maybe it's worth trying Barr, no downside
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Old Jan 17, 18, 9:32 am
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it looks like the post Jan 4 renewals are populating end of Jan, 2019, their IT must be programmed on a year out?
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