New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue

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Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.

As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend

JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD

ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info

40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;


04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan

04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++

sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )

04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220

04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s

[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria

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Old Jan 12, 18, 1:50 pm
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My card shows Ambassador now, a downgrade that waa expected as my travel habits changed and I now visit places without ICs or ICs I don't like, Berlin, Frankfurt... Spent probably 8k USD at ICs, but have 110 nights at mostly other IHG brands.
But, today I just got an email welcoming me to another year of royal Ambassador membership. Let's see what happens - maybe I escalate the welcome back invitation if the promised welcome kit doesn't say RA. ..
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Old Jan 12, 18, 1:51 pm
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Anyne else received an email about being invited to RA again in error?

I just received an email saying this:

"Your Royal Ambassador privileges await you

Dear "johhenrik",It has been our pleasure to welcome you to InterContinental® Hotels & Resorts in 2017 and in appreciation of your loyalty, I would like to personally extend an invitation for you to be our Royal Ambassador again in the upcoming year.

Royal Ambassador is by invitation only, and reserved for our very top InterContinental® Ambassadors. You will continue to enjoy additional privileges, inclusive of the Club InterContinental experience, whenever you stay at our hotels or resorts with your Royal Ambassador status valid until 31 January 2019.

Your personal updated Royal Ambassador membership kit will reach you in the upcoming weeks but you can enjoy your new privileges immediately during your next stay with us. Over the course of the year we look forward to announcing new privileges to ensure your experiences continue to be rewarding.

Thank you for your support of InterContinental® Hotels & Resorts. Our team looks forward to welcoming you back again very soon, and to turning your travels into stories to cherish in 2018.

Yours sincerely,


Vice President, Global Loyalty Programmes"

This must be an error, because I didn't requalify this year. I only did about 40 nights, maybe 30-35 in IC. My spend was probably around $7k in total. I received the email about 20 minutes ago and IHG.COM still says I am Ambassador. Very strange I must say.
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Old Jan 12, 18, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Tim O'Brien View Post
if you are an IC stayer, then divide your IC stays EQP's by 10 to establish your USD net qualifying spend.
I started keeping a spreadsheet of IHG/IC nights a few years ago. Once the revenue change was announced last year, I just added a column for IC spend (w/o tax). Then I have no questions -- I found that there were some discrepancies on adjusted stays in both the app and website (because of currency conversion after the switch to the new website format).
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Old Jan 12, 18, 2:01 pm
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This is increasingly ridiculous.

With 17K+ net spend at IC my acct statement showed the RA renewal, however my acct per fron page (noticed first by awardwallet) shows only spire elite and not even AMB. Gotten the full runaround by amb services, and lots of wrong and conflicting (like one agent promising I will keep RA benefits until the review is done, with the next agent denying the same) info before promising that its escalated and they will let me know within 72h. 96h later no word.

My partner with a spend slightly north of 10K usd net had the RA renewal on acct statement and the status as RA all alon, incl today, but just got an email shwoing status as RA, yet stating its downgraded to AMB.

"It has been our pleasure to welcome you to InterContinental® Hotels & Resorts in 2017 as a Royal Ambassador. In appreciation of your loyalty with us, I am pleased to invite you to enjoy a Spire Ambassador membership with our compliments in 2018.

As a valued Ambassador member, you will enjoy privileges including a membership fee waiver in the upcoming year, and Spire Elite status guaranteed upgrades and late check-out.

Your personal Ambassador membership kit will reach you in the upcoming weeks but you can enjoy your new privileges immediately during your next stay with us. Over the course of the year we look forward to announcing new privileges to ensure your experiences continue to be rewarding.

Thank you for your support of InterContinental® Hotels & Resorts. Our team looks forward to welcoming you back again very soon, and to turning your travels into stories to cherish in 2018."
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Old Jan 12, 18, 2:02 pm
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I also received the RA Mail, but the App shows still Spire Amb.
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Old Jan 12, 18, 2:14 pm
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QUOTE=IAN-UK;29282992]I'm guessing he doesn't need to reply - just to refer your message on to the relative department (hopefully with a positive comment).

My reward for spending more than one in every 5 nights of 2017 in an IC was:

...the good news is you will receive free of charge a full year of Spire Ambassador status

That's a value of $150, right ? Time to celebrate [/QUOTE]
have you considered sending an email through to Mr Barr?
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Old Jan 12, 18, 2:37 pm
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Bunch of amateurs...
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Old Jan 12, 18, 2:39 pm
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I also have RA status on IHG.com, and RA renewal in my activity feed, and got the downgrade email.

It almost seems like IHG sent the wrong email to everyone? People who renewed got downgrade, and people who didn't got welcomes? I'm not surprised based on their previous IT failures.

For what its worth I took screenshots of everything (new member card, ihg.com header, activity feed).

EDIT: Also got the correction + apology email.
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Old Jan 12, 18, 2:48 pm
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I also received the RA Mail, but the App shows still Spire Amb.
i received a mail indicating a downgrade to Complimentary spire ambassador, though my RA has been renewed. Never seen such unprofessional mails. If I would be the responsible boss, some heads would roll
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Old Jan 12, 18, 3:14 pm
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It is my first RA-year and I got a correct mail containing following formulation: "[...] I would like to personally extend an invitation for you to be our Royal Ambassador in the new calendar year. [...]"
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Old Jan 12, 18, 3:34 pm
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Received a downgrade e-mail this morning, and now (3 hours later) a correction and apology from Canty.
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Old Jan 12, 18, 3:36 pm
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Got an email welcoming me as a Spire Ambassador. I had about 18KUSD IC spend last year.
Website still shows Royal.
Headline in the email still shows my membership number with Royal.

This is extremely positive after all the experiences in the past:
- They are able to send out status emails to customers
- They seem to be alive and kicking
- They know that it is 2018.
This is more than we were expecting late last year.
They just got minor details like the status level wrong, but at least they mae a step in the right direction.

PS: I received an apology email when I was typing my reply.
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Old Jan 12, 18, 3:43 pm
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Old Jan 12, 18, 3:46 pm
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I'm curious if people genuinely did get the emails the other way too (RA in 2017 failed in 2018, got a welcome email?). What apology are they going to send to those people?
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Old Jan 12, 18, 4:44 pm
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