Accounts closed with nearly half million points
#61
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
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I have had exactly 0 paid stays in the US this year. All paid stays have been in Asia. Including Bangkok, Jakarta, Singapore and Hong Kong. Most of the stays have been at IC's and I still averaged 5-6k per night, even on longer stays. I'd think he would at least be an Ambassador, or should be an RA.
As I mentioned, many promotion only good for US members, not US properties.
too bad I can not pull his detail anymore, otherwise, I will show you lots of stays had no bonus at all other than Platinum 50%. Also I mentioned last year was diff due to FFN promotion, that's when he stayed many nights too.
BTW, RA is not important anymore, as several RAs in china got account closed.
Last edited by yyliu88; May 29, 2010 at 8:57 pm
#62
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 9
My PCR account was closed also for the nearly same reason several months ago. The guy from PCR told me that you could choose another program now, PCR would never welcome you back from now on!
#63
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1
there is more and more tincture indicate the action is becoming a discriminating toward Chinese name person, not only Chinese in china, but also all over the world .
when you comsume the point ,your account will be ending...
when you comsume the point ,your account will be ending...
#64
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tokyo
Programs: NW Diamond, LH SEN, PC Spire - RA, TG PlatHyatt Diamond
Posts: 585
If PCR could have a program that alert Chinese names with numerous offer registrations, PCR should better use the program to match the tragetted member and the promotion that they are registering for during the registration process.
Accepting any offer registration, even the OBSOLETE one, from any member, tragetted or NOT, is an unbelievable system anyway.
Accepting any offer registration, even the OBSOLETE one, from any member, tragetted or NOT, is an unbelievable system anyway.
#65
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tokyo
Programs: NW Diamond, LH SEN, PC Spire - RA, TG PlatHyatt Diamond
Posts: 585
I have had exactly 0 paid stays in the US this year. All paid stays have been in Asia. Including Bangkok, Jakarta, Singapore and Hong Kong. Most of the stays have been at IC's and I still averaged 5-6k per night, even on longer stays. I'd think he would at least be an Ambassador, or should be an RA.
Having said that, in some part of the world, my corporate rate at IC is sometimes cheaper than CP or even HI.
#66
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, Hyatt something
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Most of us would like to have most of hotel stays at IC or other luxury hotels, but some of us cannot do it because there is no IC in the area or just cannot afford the rate.
Having said that, in some part of the world, my corporate rate at IC is sometimes cheaper than CP or even HI.
Having said that, in some part of the world, my corporate rate at IC is sometimes cheaper than CP or even HI.
#67
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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I don't think registering for codes is the issue. I think that's just the "excuse" being used. It seems they are attempting to crack down on the sale of award rooms and the use of multiple accounts that might be rampant in certain regions. In so doing, they may also be closing down too many accounts. (Cf. Wyndham/BMI where there were reports of huge quantities of phantom stays being racked up via Chinese hotels.)
#68
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I was RA. From June 2009 to May 2010, I stayed 70 nights in IHG and became RA on March 2010. I earned 200k PCR points+ 20k airline miles + 4 FFN from these stays.
My account was closed 2 weeks ago without notification. The points in my account was 190K+(I used 10K points).
I feel disappointed what PCR did for Chinese.
My account was closed 2 weeks ago without notification. The points in my account was 190K+(I used 10K points).
I feel disappointed what PCR did for Chinese.
#69
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
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I don't think registering for codes is the issue. I think that's just the "excuse" being used. It seems they are attempting to crack down on the sale of award rooms and the use of multiple accounts that might be rampant in certain regions. In so doing, they may also be closing down too many accounts. (Cf. Wyndham/BMI where there were reports of huge quantities of phantom stays being racked up via Chinese hotels.)
BTW, Wyndham/BMI phantom stays reported on FT were fake, there was no such thing like buying receipts exist. Yes, super 8 are cheap in China, $25-$30 USD per night, there were many people took advantage of this promotion, but still, people showed up, checked in, just choose not to stay at hotels. it's not worth it for hotel to sell u the receipt as they would loss franchise license if got caught
Last edited by yyliu88; May 29, 2010 at 10:22 pm
#70
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: TX
Posts: 219
Besides, many card issuers will issue additional cards or joint account cards with different names but the same account number.
#71
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
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If PCR could have a program that alert Chinese names with numerous offer registrations, PCR should better use the program to match the tragetted member and the promotion that they are registering for during the registration process.
Accepting any offer registration, even the OBSOLETE one, from any member, tragetted or NOT, is an unbelievable system anyway.
Accepting any offer registration, even the OBSOLETE one, from any member, tragetted or NOT, is an unbelievable system anyway.
My account was safe before I redeemed 150K for 6 nights stay.
Basically, you redeemed certain amount of points, then their system alerted, then human checked, then saw Chinese name, then bye~~~
#72
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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I still fail to see any proof that they are targetting racially.
Your account got closed, you are chinese does not prove anything
No having both sides of the story, not mch that can be inferred imo
Your account got closed, you are chinese does not prove anything
No having both sides of the story, not mch that can be inferred imo
#73
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 17
All this just turn priority club policy to be a autocratic rule. It will makes everyone feel that the priority club points is not safe.
Because you will not know you are locked until you try to login. And they never provide evidence of the reason why you are locked.
In this case. Priority club takes all the roles of detective, jury and judge. There is not place for the suspected member to appeal.
Because Priority club has the power to lock out all points anytime in future and you can't find a way to reclaim all the points. Then you will be refused to join the priority club again.
Because you will not know you are locked until you try to login. And they never provide evidence of the reason why you are locked.
In this case. Priority club takes all the roles of detective, jury and judge. There is not place for the suspected member to appeal.
Because Priority club has the power to lock out all points anytime in future and you can't find a way to reclaim all the points. Then you will be refused to join the priority club again.
#74
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 756
All this just turn priority club policy to be a autocratic rule. It will makes everyone feel that the priority club points is not safe.
Because you will not know you are locked until you try to login. And they never provide evidence of the reason why you are locked.
In this case. Priority club takes all the roles of detective, jury and judge. There is not place for the suspected member to appeal.
Because Priority club has the power to lock out all points anytime in future and you can't find a way to reclaim all the points. Then you will be refused to join the priority club again.
Because you will not know you are locked until you try to login. And they never provide evidence of the reason why you are locked.
In this case. Priority club takes all the roles of detective, jury and judge. There is not place for the suspected member to appeal.
Because Priority club has the power to lock out all points anytime in future and you can't find a way to reclaim all the points. Then you will be refused to join the priority club again.
#75
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
Programs: SPG Plat, HHonor Diamond, Hyatt PLAT, Marriott PLat, UA 1K, AA EXP, DL PLAT, BMI Gold, Co PLAT
Posts: 1,952
let me make it clear, If I can make money by selling points, why would I want to write a blog ? I write a blog because I like the game and want to everyone knows better about the game.
Last edited by yyliu88; May 30, 2010 at 12:37 am