surcharge for second Person[merged]

Old Sep 23, 2006, 5:10 am
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surcharge for second Person[merged]

What nonsense is this?

€35 extra for a second person on top of a €60 room charge (HI Nuremburg) is unjustifiable, a surcharge of over 58%. And breakfast isn't even included.

Perhaps it doesn't apply to elites? Well, I'm logged in and that's what the system shows.

I'm steering clear of the Holiday Inn and will look elsewhere.
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Old Sep 23, 2006, 5:59 am
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Yes, I encountered the same for the HI GC in Helsinki back in June. In my case, the fully flexible rate did not have the 2nd person surcharge and therefore, the flexible rate was cheaper in total than the advance booking rate. Might be worth a try.
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Old Sep 23, 2006, 6:54 am
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Contact the hotel, my experience is that they won't charge for Priority club members. But you better get that in writing before you book
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Old Sep 23, 2006, 8:37 am
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I've run into hotels in other chains that also attempt to pull this 2nd person surcharge stunt as well, usually causing me to drop the offending property from consideration.

I first ran into this when making a reservation at the HI Guam, and as a result elected to stay at the Hilton. Now a moot point as the hotel has since changed management and is now the Holiday Resort Guam.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 1:58 am
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Same here when looking at rates at the IC Cologne... 25 per extra adult isn't that much, however, according to me it is just an extra sneaky way to be able to advertise with lower prices than you really have to pay...
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 2:12 am
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Thanks for the suggestions, folks. I'll contact the hotel direct. If we can get around this, no problem. Otherwise, we'll stay elsewhere.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:47 pm
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Given when booking packages there's always a Single Supplement charge for hotels, it is somewhat bizarre to be asked to pay a supplement for an additional person. But this has been a common practice in Europe and other parts of the world (beyond NAmerica). It may also relate to the fact that in Europe hotels pay better wages than in most other parts of the world, and it does take longer to clean up a room occupied by two people (or more) than one...and require additional resources for bedding etc. So there is definitely a greater cost to servicing two people over one, ergo a rationale for the charge. It also assumes these days most business travelers are traveling alone, thus the discounting is done at this level. Additional occupants add more charges. (Or if companies are doubling up, they still must pay for the second person sharing.)
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 1:01 pm
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i thought it was an AMB benefit to have no extra charge for the 2nd person. I know i've read this somewhere.
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Old Sep 27, 2006, 2:55 pm
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Absolutely right, Ambassadors and Royal Ambassadors get double occupancy for the price of single occupancy.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
It may also relate to the fact that in Europe hotels pay better wages than in most other parts of the world, and it does take longer to clean up a room occupied by two people (or more) than one...and require additional resources for bedding etc. So there is definitely a greater cost to servicing two people over one, ergo a rationale for the charge. It also assumes these days most business travelers are traveling alone, thus the discounting is done at this level. Additional occupants add more charges. (Or if companies are doubling up, they still must pay for the second person sharing.)
So when only 1 person stays in a king room, they change only half the sheets, clean half the toilet, bathroom etc. You know that that is not true, right? In fact, when I stay with my wife, the room will be much more tidy then when I'm alone on the road
Morecost of wages? For 35 euro p.p.p.n I will come and clean your hotelroom anytime
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 12:57 pm
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Old Sep 30, 2006, 11:49 am
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This is total B.S. I would never consider staying at a hotel that charged a supplement for a 2nd person (unless of course I had absolutely, positively no other less expensive choice).
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 8:34 pm
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2 for 1 surcharge [merged]

Tried to book upcoming trip to Germany in some HI's and CP's
and found these additional charges on my 2:1 rate page

Extra Person Charge: 32.0 EUR per extra Adult starting with the 2nd adult
Extra Person Charge: 20.0 EUR per extra Adult starting with the 2nd adult
Extra Person Charge: 21.0 EUR per extra Adult starting with the 2nd adult
(price depends on the hotel you choose)

Since then they are implemented these?
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 9:08 pm
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 9:12 pm
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