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Internal Discussion (pictures in master thread or experience threads)

Old Sep 18, 2022, 12:19 pm
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Internal Discussion (pictures in master thread or experience threads)

I am a new poster so apologies if this remark is inappropriate.

I find the photos make this thread on elite treatment--NOT general hotel reviews--very difficult to browse, especially on mobile devices. Page load times are extreme and there are just too many useless photos between the real information.

I can only ask posters to get a grip on themselves. What is the point of posting pictures of bathroom cosmetics, power sockets, tea kettles, completely unremarkable receptions, etc.? Also keep in mind that many IHG brands such as Crowns Plaza or Holiday Inn have blueprints. Except for conversions and such, most properties follow these blueprints to an extent.

Finally, there is also the option to use the hotel-specific threads to post reviews, including photo reviews. Even there, it may make sense to show some self-restraint and think twice about posting the 1000th photograph of the same standard bed.
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Old Sep 18, 2022, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by ffgap
I am a new poster so apologies if this remark is inappropriate.

I find the photos make this thread on elite treatment--NOT general hotel reviews--very difficult to browse, especially on mobile devices. Page load times are extreme and there are just too many useless photos between the real information.

I can only ask posters to get a grip on themselves. What is the point of posting pictures of bathroom cosmetics, power sockets, tea kettles, completely unremarkable receptions, etc.? Also keep in mind that many IHG brands such as Crowns Plaza or Holiday Inn have blueprints. Except for conversions and such, most properties follow these blueprints to an extent.

Finally, there is also the option to use the hotel-specific threads to post reviews, including photo reviews. Even there, it may make sense to show some self-restraint and think twice about posting the 1000th photograph of the same standard bed.
I agree. There were almost 100 photos in that single post. It's way too much. Do we really need a photo of the inside of a wardrobe?
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Old Sep 18, 2022, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ffgap
I am a new poster so apologies if this remark is inappropriate.

I find the photos make this thread on elite treatment--NOT general hotel reviews--very difficult to browse, especially on mobile devices. Page load times are extreme and there are just too many useless photos between the real information.

I can only ask posters to get a grip on themselves. What is the point of posting pictures of bathroom cosmetics, power sockets, tea kettles, completely unremarkable receptions, etc.? Also keep in mind that many IHG brands such as Crowns Plaza or Holiday Inn have blueprints. Except for conversions and such, most properties follow these blueprints to an extent.

Finally, there is also the option to use the hotel-specific threads to post reviews, including photo reviews. Even there, it may make sense to show some self-restraint and think twice about posting the 1000th photograph of the same standard bed.
I agree with this too. I think these sticky threads should be for short quick reviews with maybe 4 or 5 photos max, and preferably resized so they don't take up the whole screen width. If you have more to say or show, then make a new thread for that property if it doesn't exist.

The problem with having lots of photos in this thread is that it's impossible to skip to the next post without scrolling past every single one. And since they are quite big it's hard to even tell when you've reached the next post.
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Old Sep 18, 2022, 3:20 pm
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And if you're going to dump around 100 photos in a post, at least do that in a dedicated review thread. What's odd is that in the corresponding review thread the OP merely posts a one-line link to the jumbo photo album shown here. The other way round would make more sense.
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Old Sep 18, 2022, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by yurtripper
And if you're going to dump around 100 photos in a post, at least do that in a dedicated review thread. What's odd is that in the corresponding review thread the OP merely posts a one-line link to the jumbo photo album shown here. The other way round would make more sense.
Hear hear.
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Old Sep 19, 2022, 4:32 am
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Thanks for posting about this issue. I avoid looking at these posts due to the large amount of photos, but I am very interested the reviews. Four or five pics would be great. Food porn photos are fun, but maybe a separate thread would suffice.
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Old Sep 19, 2022, 1:16 pm
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My feeling is that in this thread we should stick to the outline proposed at the beginning. Given that I now write quite extensive trip reports that are spread over a time period like a quarter of a year, I write a mixture of flight, hotel and experience reviews in these reports. My approach is to post a link in the relevant hotel thread (if the hotel in question has a thread of its own) which will take you to that particular post in my trip report. Even in the trip reports I try to be judicious with the number of photos I post, but I still somehow feel that I post far too many pics.

On the other hand, about resizing the pics, that would add a level of work that would probably put me off doing these TRs. Because I mostly read FT on my phone these days, I am happy with the size of the photos as they show up quite well like that. I admit that they are rather large if on a desktop computer.
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Old Sep 20, 2022, 4:36 am
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OP PM'd me just to say he's going to keep dumping all his photos in this thread rather than the review thread, so it looks like we're stuck with it
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Old Sep 20, 2022, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by yurtripper
OP PM'd me just to say he's going to keep dumping all his photos in this thread rather than the review thread, so it looks like we're stuck with it
@nicolas75:

I really appreciate all your contributions to the IHG thread. You stay at many more properties around the world than I could ever hope to aspire to, so have an abundance of expertise to draw on for comparison. This has been valuable to me in the past when looking at staying at a particular property.

That said, most places you review are not places I might visit. I would hazard at guess that a lot of other forumites are in a similar position.
My personal use of this particular thread is to scan across new posts and read the ones for properties I am (or might in future be) interested in.
Having long stretches of pictures makes this more difficult. So while your intentions are the best, it might be counterproductive for some of us.

Your long photographic contributions, for which I thank you again, might indeed be even more valuable if posted in the specific hotel thread and linked to in this one. Keep up the good work!
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Old Sep 20, 2022, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by TeflonMan
[...]Having long stretches of pictures makes this more difficult. So while your intentions are the best, it might be counterproductive for some of us.

Your long photographic contributions, for which I thank you again, might indeed be even more valuable if posted in the specific hotel thread and linked to in this one.
Well put, and better than I could have phrased it. (I tend to get snarky, which is not my intent.) Thank you.

I would add that when I want to look for pictures of a particular hotel, I believe it would be much easier to find a thread dedicated to the hotel than to look through a thread summarizing various participants' experiences. This is also true for the thread announcing new openings. In both cases, if multiple contributors post photos, it makes more sense for all the photos to be in the hotel thread rather than distributed disjointly in more general threads.
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Old Sep 22, 2022, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by yurtripper
OP PM'd me just to say he's going to keep dumping all his photos in this thread rather than the review thread, so it looks like we're stuck with it
​​​If nicolas75 refuses to stop the picture dumps that are frankly making this thread useless, can FLYGVA or another mod step in to get the thread back on track?
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Old Sep 24, 2022, 2:24 am
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Let me first say, that the discussion does not belong to the experience thread itself. I do not want so simply delete them. On the other hand a discussion of individual posters is also not within the line of Flyertalk. You all rasied some concerns about the number of posts and what is in it. I head the problem, with mobile devices and share some of them. I also hear, that food pictures does not belong in this thread. But it migt be interested to see what is served on breaktfast which is now one of the welcome amenities for a Diamond member, and so one could argue it does belong in this thread as well.

As with every topic, there are two sides of the medal. And I also think that is is night to have some real pictures of a stay and not those on the homepage and on other review sides, which tend to have a different approach than we have.

I will leave this thread for now, but we moderators might close this later. And while I do so, I would kindly ask you, to discuss this topic and not individual members of the Flyertalk community

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Old Sep 24, 2022, 4:00 am
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It took me some thought as how to compose this in a clearly way,
forgive me, the home coffeemachine broke down and i'm surviving on instant coffee sachets......



I will yield to the community and respect FT:member's wishes,
i would like to contribute as i am responsible.



My personal attention and interests have been on:
  1. Special focus Intercontinental hotels thread:


Intercontinental Amsterdam Amstel hotel

InterContinental Amstel Amsterdam Master Thread



Intercontinental Bali Jimbaran Bay Resort

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/inte...ad-merged.html



Intercontinental Paris Le Grand

IC Le Grand Paris Master Thread [merged]
  1. Special focus Kimpton hotel threads:


Kimpton de Witt Amsterdam

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/inte...er-thread.html



Kimpton Fitzroy London

Kimpton Fitzroy London Master Thread




Because of the pandemic travelstop 2020
i thought it wise to update the community with postpandemic 2021/ 2022 extensive detailed reviews of those hotels
as new information / materials / service reductions / details / covid adaptations / photos have been scarce.



Those above threads are filled to the brim with my photo heavy postings and i will take full accountability for that.



However now that travel is exceeding prepandemic levels,
i can now step back and let others add their updated input and recent experiences
as to benefit and inform FT: members.

Most fieldwork and post pandemic discoveries have now been fully documented / photographed,
so the future posts on those hotels' Master-threads by FT:members,
need only to add:
- distinctive changes in daily hotel operations
- recent updates / personal experiences
- experience about different room / suite categories/types
- F&B outlet changes
- renovations & refurbishment progress
- enduring problems + service snafu + bad customer service (let's hope not)
+ And ofcourse hotel specific gossip yes please!



I must admit being influenced (deserve a slap in my face) by modern youtubers/bloggers,
about availability of USB-A / USB-C and imperial / european / US style electric outlets
for the needy modern digital nomad,
so i will turn down the focus / photos of location/availability/amount of electric connectivity options.


FLYGVA
If moderators wish to seperate my photo intensive posts in each of the respective hotel master threads to other different threads/ FT: sections, i can fully understand this,
as the consensus is that it helps members reach core information without clutter and without impacting FT: page load speed while increasing readability

Please consult with other moderators on their specific boards/topics about my other photo intensive posts on the respective hotel's master thread if changes need to be made or please advise accordingly:

Sheraton Amsterdam airport hotel
Sheraton Amsterdam Airport Hotel AMS, Netherlands [Master Thread]

MGallery Phoenix hotel Yogjakarta
The Phoenix hotel Yogyakarta

Hyatt Regency hotel Yogjakarta
Hyatt Yogyakarta REVIEW - MASTER THREAD

Marriott Yogjakarta
Yogyakarta Marriott, Indonesia [Master Thread]

Hilton Rotterdam
Hilton Rotterdam {NLD}

Marriott Rotterdam
Rotterdam Marriott - Netherlands [Master Thread]


I have posted in the past
an extensive review about W Amsterdam :
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...hy-oh-why-4072
If above master threads need some of my individual posts to be reformatted in a similair style, i will ofcourse oblige.




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The way for me to move forward, i will ask other members thoughts on how to proceed that is to confirm to better FT experience and MODs approval:



My other (Master)threads about IHG hotels for reference:



Voco The Hague

Voco The Hague - Den Haag - Master Thread



Staybridge Suites The Hague

Staybridge Suites The Hague - Den Haag (Master Thread)



Taken above posts in account,

I am due to stay at the Indigo The Hague soon,



Does the community prefer me to compose: as in
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-reviews/
  • 2 create a master thread for Indigo The Hague and post an extensive review similair like Voco The Hague and Staybridge Suites The Hague as above aforementioned
  • 3 make a thread on FT: tripreports for the photo intensive part and then link back to the Indigo The Hague Master Thread
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-reports-177/



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All input is equally appreciated and most welcome.

All improvements to benefit FT will be taken into consideration.



On a lighter tone ending with a smile:

One word of warning......

i will absolutely not venture in video / youtube reviews ever,
as my look would cause the same effect as Medusa's petrifying stare.....
plus my voice is not unlike James Earl Jones (DarthVader for the millenians) which has the same mesmerizing hypnotic effect.

i am unfortunately stuck with the written word
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Old Sep 24, 2022, 5:54 am
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I welcome photos in any thread.
The root cause might be that this forum has not evolved since 2006 and posting and viewing remains a pita the moment something includes pictures - not even to speak of thr abysmal mobile version.

I enjoy scrolling through photo enriched posts at 飛客 or flyertea every morning - and only part of this preference comes from my current second home base.

Wish Flyertalk to evolve into the present and update it's technology to solve this.

In the meanwhile, thanks for all posters enriching with photos.
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Old Sep 24, 2022, 5:57 am
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I can understand why some may want shorter, snappier type reviews while others appreciate lengthier and very detailed reviews of a property, facilities and yes, now that it is an amenity, the breakfasts.

I for one do appreciate getting an idea of a property, rooms and food especially for personal vacation trips where the happiness of the significant other with my choices (I'm the designated hotel selector and flight organizer) may make a major contribution to the success of the trip and for such, detailed planning and pre-reviews are needed . Also if I'm going to drop hundreds of Euro / Dollar for some of these expensive properties, I'm keen to see as much as I can before shelling out my hard earned cash to decide whether whether it is worth it or not.

As others said, maybe we can split off reports with a large number of pics into a separate thread, be that the hotel one or even something like a "photographic review thread"? Personally either way would work in my book, but it would certainly be sad to see the details disappear. YMMV.
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