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zagguru Sep 2, 2019 4:47 pm

Looking for Lie Flat from JFK to somewhere warm
 
Looking to fly lie flat from JFK to somewhere warm in November-January time. Europe is too cold. Hawaii is too far. Thinking somewhere between 4-7 hour flight. From my research, all Caribbean destinations dont have any lie-flat options. Anyone have any suggestions?

Efrem Sep 2, 2019 7:17 pm

Bogotá from JFK on Avianca. The seat is slightly angled, though. If you don't mind extending your upper flight time limit to 7:40, Lima on UA.

There are surely other options as well.

guv1976 Sep 2, 2019 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by zagguru (Post 31483728)
Looking to fly lie flat from JFK to somewhere warm in November-January time. Europe is too cold. Hawaii is too far. Thinking somewhere between 4-7 hour flight. From my research, all Caribbean destinations dont have any lie-flat options. Anyone have any suggestions?

Check AA's JFK-MIA schedules. One or two of the daily flights might be on equipment with lie-flats.

And there's also JFK-LAX, but can't guarantee warmth in L.A. that time of year.

Yoshi212 Sep 2, 2019 8:25 pm

DL and AM have lie-flat on select routings to CUN & MEX.

LondonElite Sep 3, 2019 12:16 am

On a short daytime flight of five/six hours or less, I really don't see any advantage of lie-flat seats. A comfortable domestic first class seat is just fine. I certainly wouldn't let it dictate my holiday location.

zagguru Sep 3, 2019 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 31484026)
Bogotá from JFK on Avianca. The seat is slightly angled, though. If you don't mind extending your upper flight time limit to 7:40, Lima on UA.

There are surely other options as well.

Both are not so warm in November

arttravel Sep 3, 2019 7:20 pm

What about looking at the jet blue mint flights to the Caribbean — they may only be once a week though

Efrem Sep 3, 2019 8:19 pm


Originally Posted by zagguru (Post 31487714)
Both are not so warm in November

You have just given us more information about your definition of "warm" than we had before. To me anyplace with an average daily high in the 60s (F) in November is warm. (I felt the same way when I lived in the NYC area.) Anything else we should know before we make more suggestions that will be rejected for reasons we can't know about?

MNSWEEps Sep 3, 2019 11:19 pm

I am flying DL 24 from JFK to BOM and back non-stop last week of Dec :-)

zagguru Sep 4, 2019 4:58 am

Sorry. I should have bee more clear. Looking for 80 degree temperature. Basically warm beach weather

arttravel Sep 4, 2019 12:32 pm

Have you looked at the JetBlue Mint options -- the flights are only once a week from JFK but at least that is an option to some islands

zagguru Sep 4, 2019 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by arttravel (Post 31490285)
Have you looked at the JetBlue Mint options -- the flights are only once a week from JFK but at least that is an option to some islands

Yes, but they only fly on Saturday, which doesnt work.
Surprised that AA has lie flat JFK-MIA, but none to the Caribbean.

LondonElite Sep 5, 2019 3:19 am

I will try again: why is lie-flat so important for a four hour daytime flight from NYC to the Caribbean? I'd rather focus on the hotel I'm staying on than the short hop to get there.

Duke787 Sep 6, 2019 8:49 am

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GeezerCouple Sep 6, 2019 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by zagguru (Post 31491034)
Yes, but they only fly on Saturday, which doesnt work.
Surprised that AA has lie flat JFK-MIA, but none to the Caribbean.

Fly down in a regular seat (or a premium economy type if available), and then fly home on MINT so you feel very refreshed at the end of a relaxing trip.

GC

sdsearch Sep 7, 2019 10:53 am


Originally Posted by zagguru (Post 31491034)
Surprised that AA has lie flat JFK-MIA, but none to the Caribbean.

JFK and MIA are both AA hubs, so it's probably just because they're "repositioning" a longhaul plane with lie-flat seats that came into JFK from far away but is next going to be used from MIA for the next far away flight. Or else, just taking up spare time between longhaul flights to/from JFK or to/from MIA with that plane. (If a plane flies across the Atlantic and then uses up somewhat over half a 24-hour day, rather than wasting that plane for the rest of that 24-hours, they may flight to some other hub and back before flying it back across the Atlantic.)

AA tends to fly lie-flats on non-transcons domestically only between its various hubs. And of course AA doesn't have any hubs in the Carribean (nor do any other airlines).

Perhaps you should consider a connecting flight through MIA, and be happy that you can at least get lie-flat part of the way, as you're not that likely to find lie-flat going all the way to the Caribbean.

At AA (and probably most other airlines), lie-flat tends to be only on planes configured for JFK-LAX/SFO transcons plus planes configured for longhaul international travel. To get a lie-flat on a shorter flight (which is all you seem to want), it has be a transcon plane, or an international plane "using up" time domestically.

Keep in mind that the primary reason AA puts lie-flat on planes is for business people booking business class and paying business class fares so as to get the best use out of their flight time, not for the casual traveler going on vacation. And there's comparatively little business travel to the Caribbean.

zagguru Sep 7, 2019 8:40 pm

Thanks!

Cloudship Sep 8, 2019 9:16 am

Do you consider LA warm? You can get lie-flats from JFK to LAX, but they are a bit pricey. If you're willing to schlep or take a short train ride or flight to PHL, AA flies a 330 from PHL to LAX and it is usually a decent deal.likewise, you can fly or train up to BOS and catch the JetBlue Mint seats to LAX for usually a better deal.


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