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ft555 May 28, 2018 7:49 am

Where to post a request for real reason my flight is delayed?
 
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UpgradeMe May 28, 2018 8:05 am

Why not ask the airline?

LondonElite May 28, 2018 9:13 am

We likely don't know the reason for the delay. My suggestion is to ask the airline.

ft555 May 28, 2018 10:26 am

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LondonElite May 28, 2018 10:30 am

What were the lies, how do you know they were lies? A simple search on Google shows that the return to STN is due to a late inbound aircraft. This could be due to weather or tech reasons.

ft555 May 28, 2018 10:31 am

Thread obsolete

LondonElite May 28, 2018 10:36 am


Originally Posted by dammit96 (Post 29802128)
Believe it’s YL-LCQ which did stn-zakynhos and back yesterday, then out to Dal but never came back!

I doubt that. An A321 does not have the range to fly from anywhere in Europe to DAL.

ft555 May 28, 2018 10:36 am

LondonElite I believe it’s a tech or crew reason. Either of those is fine; I just want as much info as somebody here might be able to get, above and beyond what I can. I don’t want to publish the conversation I had here but trust me I was told something patently untrue. I’m just asking for some additional info as I’ve got everything I can from google.

ft555 May 28, 2018 10:39 am

Thread obsolete

red star May 28, 2018 11:01 am


Originally Posted by dammit96 (Post 29802157)

erm yes it does check its flight history on flightradar24 :-) actually it went to Antalya yesterday but on 26th it went to DAL

It went to DLM, not DAL which is in Texas.

LondonElite May 28, 2018 11:19 am

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LondonElite May 28, 2018 11:20 am


Originally Posted by dammit96 (Post 29802157)

erm yes it does check its flight history on flightradar24 :-) actually it went to Antalya yesterday but on 26th it went to DAL

DAL = Dallas Love Field. Not manageable for that A321, which has a range of ca 3,200 nmi. STN-DAL, for example, is 4,760 nmi.

Often1 May 28, 2018 1:50 pm

For those who haven't memorized MT's schedule, this would be its 12:35 departure CFU-STN.

Looks to me as though MT made two aircraft substitutions in an effort to get the flight out, one at 02:01 and the next at 03:31 (both local CFU). It was at that point that what had been showing as a 20-minute delay was changed to the full on projected delay. This suggests the work of a carrier doing its best to locate a reserve aircraft and get it to a small outstation with a crew having the hours to legally work the flight back to STN.

Often, when carriers are trying to locate reserve aircraft (and crew) to perform a flight, there will be significant changes in the operating parameters and what was accurate at one moment, may not be the next.

What OP refers to as a "pack of lies" may well not be lies but simply changes. Until he posts what the "pack of lies" were, it is really hard to either have much sympathy or to provide more than passing advice.

LondonElite May 28, 2018 1:53 pm

Yes, the whole unsubstantiated lies bit is not very helpful.

84fiero May 28, 2018 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by dammit96 (Post 29802150)
LondonElite I believe it’s a tech or crew reason. Either of those is fine; I just want as much info as somebody here might be able to get, above and beyond what I can. I don’t want to publish the conversation I had here but trust me I was told something patently untrue. I’m just asking for some additional info as I’ve got everything I can from google.

I think you might have misunderstood the scope of this site - this isn't an airline employee/pilot forum (though there are some of both on here) but a frequent traveler type community. Likely no one here will have any inside info, unless an employee of that airline happens to also be a member here and sees this post, which is unlikely.

ft555 May 29, 2018 12:28 pm

Dear All

One last post before I leave forever :-)

1) I did not misunderstand the purpose of the site. I asked my question because someone else had asked almost the same question and got a sensible answer (including details of the aircraft's movements) so thought, naively, the same might be possible for me. Not a problem if not. Did not expect the Spanish inquisition or to be accused of lying, or spoken about as 'he' as though I wasn't listening.
2) I understand things change, I know whoever I chatted with might have said one thing then had to try something else and there could be a convoluted problem-solving timeline. But that was not my experience - I WAS lied to. What I was told when chatting to the agent was simply NOT true. No matter, if you don't believe me that's fine, but please don't ever go on jury service.
3) I also know it is difficult to move aircraft/crew about - I'm not a complete half-wit. I believe most people do their best, most of the time. They do not want delays either. I just ask that people I deal with are honest with me. I don't get angry, I am usually pretty understanding about such things and I've intervened when people have treated Agents rudely - no need for it.
4) As it happens, the Captain of the flight told me what I wanted to know - there were 'several' (his word), u/s aircraft at Stansted and they had to fly another aircraft down from Manchester, with crew, to form the outbound MT1726 then the MT1727. So I have my answer.
5) I've asked to have my data deleted as, much as I've always enjoyed reading threads on here while not posting, I've managed to waste my 5 posts in 24 hours on trying to justify myself and I shouldn't have had to. So, I will bog off and leave you to it.
6) Why presume 'he'?

Thank you to the couple of bits of useful info I was given, among the other comments.

Adam1222 May 29, 2018 8:49 pm


Originally Posted by dammit96 (Post 29805909)
Dear All

One last post before I leave forever :-)

1) I did not misunderstand the purpose of the site. I asked my question because someone else had asked almost the same question and got a sensible answer (including details of the aircraft's movements) so thought, naively, the same might be possible for me. Not a problem if not. Did not expect the Spanish inquisition or to be accused of lying, or spoken about as 'he' as though I wasn't listening.
2) I understand things change, I know whoever I chatted with might have said one thing then had to try something else and there could be a convoluted problem-solving timeline. But that was not my experience - I WAS lied to. What I was told when chatting to the agent was simply NOT true. No matter, if you don't believe me that's fine, but please don't ever go on jury service.
3) I also know it is difficult to move aircraft/crew about - I'm not a complete half-wit. I believe most people do their best, most of the time. They do not want delays either. I just ask that people I deal with are honest with me. I don't get angry, I am usually pretty understanding about such things and I've intervened when people have treated Agents rudely - no need for it.
4) As it happens, the Captain of the flight told me what I wanted to know - there were 'several' (his word), u/s aircraft at Stansted and they had to fly another aircraft down from Manchester, with crew, to form the outbound MT1726 then the MT1727. So I have my answer.
5) I've asked to have my data deleted as, much as I've always enjoyed reading threads on here while not posting, I've managed to waste my 5 posts in 24 hours on trying to justify myself and I shouldn't have had to. So, I will bog off and leave you to it.
6) Why presume 'he'?

Thank you to the couple of bits of useful info I was given, among the other comments.

Sorry you didn't get what you paid for on this website; I'm sure you can get a full refund of what you paid to Flyertalk.

ft555 May 30, 2018 3:02 am

My sides are splitting.

ft555 May 30, 2018 3:04 am

I had already asked and got nowhere. But thanks.

Adam1222 May 30, 2018 3:55 am


Originally Posted by dammit96 (Post 29808217)
My sides are splitting.

I thought you were gone forever. Thanks for all you've contributed to the community!!!


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