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Wayfahrer Jan 3, 2015 6:34 am

Generic question about hotel programs in general
 
I was redirected from here. I searched the forum to no avail.

Say, in hotel program X, you stay

- 10 nights in a year: you are silver
- 25 nights in a year: you are gold
- 50 nights in a year: you are platinum

We can say most programs work like this; so far it is clear. For this example, let's assume you get status by actually staying in hotels.

However, where I lost the line is how do you maintain status in the next year and the year following that...?

Do you have to stay 10, 25 or 50 nights every year, or fewer nights, or simply using the credit card you maintain status? (No card here.)

sdsearch Jan 3, 2015 6:57 am

You list your location as EU. I don't know what credit cards that give status (or help with status) are available in your country. In the US, you can get Hilton Gold with either an Amex Surpass card ($75/year) or a Citi Reserve card ($95/year), and you can get IHG Platinum with a Chase card ($49/year after the first year, and for that $49 you get an uncapped free night certificate). Then the Marriott card from Chase and the SPG card from Amex give you the equivalent of some elite status night credits, but not enough to get you to a "meaningful" elite status level with just the card. (I don't belong to Hyatt so I'm not sure to what degree the Chase card for Hyatt helps with status there.)

The next thing to keep in mind is that status is typically good for almost two years if (but only if) you earn it soon after the status year turns over. For example, earning status at Hilton in April 2015 means you have that status through March 2017, but earning that same status at Hilton in November 2014 means you only have that status through March 2016. I mention this for Hilton because there's usually a 4-stay-to-qualify-for-Gold promo that can be found on FlyerTalk (though you can only sign up for that once you lose Gold). and that's best to do in April for maximum status length.

Then at Marriott, there's the concept of rollover nights. If you earn 51-74 elite nights, you get Gold, plus 1-24 nights rolled over into the next year. But the third year, you can't re-roll the same rollver nights.

Also, at Marriott you can get 10 status night credits for holding a meeting. That has led to a thread in the Marriott forum about "earn Platinum status in 8 days, $800, no stays needed".

However, ignoring these "tricks", you generally have to requalify with exactly the same number of nights/stays in years 2 and 3 and 4 as you did in year 1. (That's assuming you qualifying the "normal" way in year 1, but several programs have a "trial" status promo which you can only use once, so it's actually easier to qualify your first year with fewer nights, but in your subsequent years you have to do "normal" requalification.)

So, as you can see, there's only a simple "general" answer to your question if you ignore every trick in the book. All the tricks, however, are specific to each hotel program. And furthermore, the tricks may vary (especially the ones related to credit cards) depending on which country you're based in.

mike2200 Jan 3, 2015 8:06 am

Hotel programs are Very nicely explained by SDsearch answering OPs questions

darthbimmer Jan 3, 2015 12:08 pm

Great explanation by sdsearch above. The TL;DR answer is that you must requalify for elite status annually. Beyond that, the details of how are specific to each program.

Wayfahrer Jan 9, 2015 6:00 am


Originally Posted by mike2200 (Post 24093403)
Hotel programs Very nicely explained answering OPs questions

Do you mean sdsearch very nicely explained answering OPs questions? ;)

Yes; great answer; thank you very much! So as I guessed; it just works the slow way, stay by stay, normally.

As for cards: I am not yet located in Germany but that might be an option for the future, as for cards.

LondonElite Jan 9, 2015 6:10 am

Long story short...just as with the airlines, you need to stay the qualifying nights/stays every year to maintain status.

MSPeconomist Jan 9, 2015 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by Wayfahrer (Post 24093116)
I was redirected from here. I searched the forum to no avail.

Say, in hotel program X, you stay

- 10 nights in a year: you are silver
- 25 nights in a year: you are gold
- 50 nights in a year: you are platinum

We can say most programs work like this; so far it is clear. For this example, let's assume you get status by actually staying in hotels.

However, where I lost the line is how do you maintain status in the next year and the year following that...?

Do you have to stay 10, 25 or 50 nights every year, or fewer nights, or simply using the credit card you maintain status? (No card here.)

Note that some hotel programs allow you to qualify for status based on stays rather than nights, typically 25 stays instead of 50 nights. In comparing programs, note that some but not all count cash and points or even award (free) nights toward status. There are also different rules about whether particularly cheap rates (such as price line or group bookings) earn nights/stay credit, points, or elite benefits. Finally, be aware that 50 nights or Gold/Platinum/Diamond benefits are not uniform across programs. Be sure to compare these as well as checking whether the chain has suitable properties in locations you need.


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