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joer1212 Nov 14, 2014 12:46 pm

Lounge Access
 
Hi, I'm kind of new to premium travel, having flown Economy Class for most of my life.
I have a couple of questions about award bookings that I recently made:

(1) I am flying Asiana JFK-ICN; ICN-MNL in C in January.
I'm returning with ANA MNL-HND in C. Then, a few days later, NRT-IAD with ANA in F, then United IAD-EWR in Y.

Which lounges would I have access to on this itinerary?
I tried to google this info, but I'm a little confused, as it's not entirely clear what I am entitled to.

(2) I just booked American Airlines r/t JFK-CUN in Business Class (738) for my brother. He is leaving on Nov 19.
Is he entitled to use any lounges at all on this trip, or do I have to purchase lounge passes for him? AA's website did not shed any light on this, but I've read on some blogs that AA does not grant lounge access to their premium passengers flying to Canada and/or Mexico from the U.S. Is this true?

Thanks

steveman518 Nov 14, 2014 1:50 pm

For trip 1 you will have access to the SWISS lounge at JFK, the OZ J lounge at ICN, SQ and TG at MNL, and ANA F (suite) and UA F lounges at HND. If you have *G status you will have additional lounges you can access

joer1212 Nov 14, 2014 11:13 pm


Originally Posted by steveman518 (Post 23842793)
For trip 1 you will have access to the SWISS lounge at JFK, the OZ J lounge at ICN, SQ and TG at MNL, and ANA F (suite) and UA F lounges at HND. If you have *G status you will have additional lounges you can access

Thanks so much.

I did make a couple of mistakes in my post. I forgot to mention that my Manila-Haneda segment with ANA is in C (not F).
I also misled you into thinking that I am returning from Manila to Newark on the same day. Actually, I'm staying in Tokyo for 4 nights before heading back to Newark. Sorry.
In light of this, what lounges are available to me at MNL, flying ANA Business Class?
Also, is there an ANA Business Arrivals Lounge in Haneda?

guv1976 Nov 14, 2014 11:40 pm

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"I just booked American Airlines r/t JFK-CUN in First Class (738) for my brother. He is leaving on Nov 19.
Is he entitled to use any lounges at all on this trip, or do I have to purchase lounge passes for him?"


AA flights to Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean do not offer First Class, only Business and Coach. Business Class tickets on these routes do not include lounge access, except for Business Class flights to/from Mexico City (MEX).

joer1212 Nov 15, 2014 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 23844738)
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"I just booked American Airlines r/t JFK-CUN in First Class (738) for my brother. He is leaving on Nov 19.
Is he entitled to use any lounges at all on this trip, or do I have to purchase lounge passes for him?"


AA flights to Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean do not offer First Class, only Business and Coach. Business Class tickets on these routes do not include lounge access, except for Business Class flights to/from Mexico City (MEX).

Thanks. I guess I'll purchase a lounge pass for him then.
I actually meant domestic First Class, which is quite different from international first, or even Business Class.

Air Rarotonga Nov 15, 2014 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 23842470)
(1) I am flying Asiana JFK-ICN; ICN-MNL in C in January.
I'm returning with ANA MNL-HND in C. Then, a few days later, NRT-IAD with ANA in F, then United IAD-EWR in Y.

Which lounges would I have access to on this itinerary?
I tried to google this info, but I'm a little confused, as it's not entirely clear what I am entitled to.

Just use this site to get information (and maps) to the Star Alliance Lounges that you're entitled to as C/F-cl passenger:

http://www.staralliance.com/en/benef...lounge-finder/

joer1212 Nov 15, 2014 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga (Post 23846697)
Just use this site to get information (and maps) to the Star Alliance Lounges that you're entitled to as C/F-cl passenger:

http://www.staralliance.com/en/benef...lounge-finder/

Thanks.
When I type in my info, it suggests several lounges in different terminals. Are you even allowed to jump from terminal to terminal? Won't security deny you access if your boarding pass states you're departing from a different terminal?

steveman518 Nov 15, 2014 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 23846505)
Thanks. I guess I'll purchase a lounge pass for him then.
I actually meant domestic First Class, which is quite different from international first, or even Business Class.

The seat will be the same as domestic first, but since it's international, it's branded as business

MSPeconomist Nov 16, 2014 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 23846910)
Thanks.
When I type in my info, it suggests several lounges in different terminals. Are you even allowed to jump from terminal to terminal? Won't security deny you access if your boarding pass states you're departing from a different terminal?

It depends on the airport. At some places, different terminals are connected airside. Others might allow you to do security twice, but there might not be enough time to go to the lounge and catch your flight. In many places, domestic and international (or schengen and nonschengen in Europe) are strict separations.

joer1212 Nov 17, 2014 1:04 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 23850856)
It depends on the airport. At some places, different terminals are connected airside. Others might allow you to do security twice, but there might not be enough time to go to the lounge and catch your flight. In many places, domestic and international (or schengen and nonschengen in Europe) are strict separations.

Hmm. What about in JFK? I would love to arrive there early and hit every lounge in every terminal that I have access to, just so I know what they're like.

MSPeconomist Nov 17, 2014 9:24 am


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 23853103)
Hmm. What about in JFK? I would love to arrive there early and hit every lounge in every terminal that I have access to, just so I know what they're like.

At best, you can only get into the lounges operated by your own departing airline and its partners or other contract lounge with which the airline has a relationship. At JFK, some terminals are connected airside (i.e., DL's JFK jitney bus between T4 and T2) but AFAIK you can only generally access the terminal from which your flight departs.

Normally it's best to just use the lounge to which your airline sends you. Then if there's a delay or other problem, you're kept up to date on the situation. In some places, the lounge will announce when you should go to the gate to board, but you shouldn't rely on this.

joer1212 Nov 17, 2014 11:30 am

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joer1212 Nov 30, 2014 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 23854568)
At best, you can only get into the lounges operated by your own departing airline and its partners or other contract lounge with which the airline has a relationship. At JFK, some terminals are connected airside (i.e., DL's JFK jitney bus between T4 and T2) but AFAIK you can only generally access the terminal from which your flight departs.

Normally it's best to just use the lounge to which your airline sends you. Then if there's a delay or other problem, you're kept up to date on the situation. In some places, the lounge will announce when you should go to the gate to board, but you shouldn't rely on this.

Would you know if Air India's lounge in JFK would be accessible to me? I've been getting conflicting info about this. I would think so, since OZ and AI are both *A. If I could do the Swiss and Air India lounges, I would get my lounge fix for the day ;)

CDKing Nov 30, 2014 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 23919715)
Would you know if Air India's lounge in JFK would be accessible to me? I've been getting conflicting info about this. I would think so, since OZ and AI are both *A. If I could do the Swiss and Air India lounges, I would get my lounge fix for the day ;)

In the winter the Air India lounge is open too late for you to get in, unless you plan on missing the flight. I'm not sure what the hours are for the Swiss lounge. All of this dependent how TSA is feeling that day whether they will let you in the terminal

joer1212 Dec 1, 2014 12:50 am


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23919957)
In the winter the Air India lounge is open too late for you to get in, unless you plan on missing the flight. I'm not sure what the hours are for the Swiss lounge. All of this dependent how TSA is feeling that day whether they will let you in the terminal

Oh, I can get into the Swiss lounge because my OZ flight operates out of the same terminal. The only issue is if it will be open. My flight leaves at 1pm.


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