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nycdave66 Nov 5, 2013 10:49 am
Advice NYC to Dub
 
Wanting to send my parents to Dublin over memorial day. Prefer to do business class at least one way if not both. I have the following mileage balances:

AA: 400k
United: 200k
Delta: 60k
USair: 150k
Alaska: 50k
Hawaiian: 85k

Chase UR: 400k

I would prefer JFK to EWR but would consider EWR if the options are superior.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am not sure if I should be looking at partners and which partner websites to use. Thank you.

philemer Nov 5, 2013 11:18 am
Originally Posted by nycdave66 (Post 21731932)
Wanting to send my parents to Dublin over memorial day. Prefer to do business class at least one way if not both. I have the following mileage balances:

AA: 400k
United: 200k
Delta: 60k
USair: 150k
Alaska: 50k
Hawaiian: 85k

Chase UR: 400k

I would prefer JFK to EWR but would consider EWR if the options are superior.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am not sure if I should be looking at partners and which partner websites to use. Thank you.
First, check flts on kayak.com or orbitz.com and see with airline makes the most sense to you. Then go to that airlines site (UA and AA come to mind) & search for award travel. Then get back to us. You have many options.

Kay_nyc Nov 5, 2013 11:55 am
Actually, I would bypass kayak. Just go on united.com and delta.com and do a search. That should get you 90% of what you need. There might be some low DL miles... not clear on those details since I UK myself.

guv1976 Nov 5, 2013 1:02 pm
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And remember that EI (which flies JFK-DUB) is a UA partner, albeit not a Star Alliance member.

However, BA sometimes gets better EI award availability than UA does, and Chase UR points can be converted to BA Avios. Surcharges for Avios redemptions are EI TATL flights are minuscule, but even small surcharges trigger certain U.S. taxes that surcharge-free redemptions do not. BA will charge fewer miles (Avios) for JFK-DUB than UA will charge for EWR-DUB.

midnightinharlem Nov 5, 2013 2:07 pm
Consider taking a shuttle to Boston, and then flying BA from BOS to DUB.

Rae Song Nov 5, 2013 9:31 pm
United is probably your best bet.

flyer121 Nov 6, 2013 2:36 am
Advice NYC to Dub
 
It's such a short flight from the northeast to Ireland. Why not just fly cheapest Y nonstop?

irishguy28 Nov 6, 2013 2:40 am
Originally Posted by midnightinharlem (Post 21733305)
Consider taking a shuttle to Boston, and then flying BA from BOS to DUB.
Why take a shuttle up to BOS when you can just take BA from New York? BA also flies from JFK and from EWR.

All BA flights would involve a connection in London.

Originally Posted by flyer121 (Post 21736464)
It's such a short flight from the northeast to Ireland. Why not just fly cheapest Y nonstop?
Because some people like to treat their parents every once in a while!

JPG3392 Nov 6, 2013 7:02 am
Originally Posted by nycdave66 (Post 21731932)
Wanting to send my parents to Dublin over memorial day. Prefer to do business class at least one way if not both. I have the following mileage balances:

AA: 400k
United: 200k
Delta: 60k
USair: 150k
Alaska: 50k
Hawaiian: 85k

Chase UR: 400k

I would prefer JFK to EWR but would consider EWR if the options are superior.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am not sure if I should be looking at partners and which partner websites to use. Thank you.
If you use AA or UA miles, you can get OW award tickets for half the price of RT (in miles). That may make it easier to book one way in business and one in coach, if you decide to do that. It may also make it easier to find seats, since you can use each airline in one direction.

But beware of high surchages on BA flights via London (even if booked with AA miles).

guv1976 Nov 6, 2013 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
Originally Posted by midnightinharlem (Post 21733305)
Consider taking a shuttle to Boston, and then flying BA from BOS to DUB.
Why take a shuttle up to BOS when you can just take BA from New York? BA also flies from JFK and from EWR.

All BA flights would involve a connection in London.

Originally Posted by flyer121 (Post 21736464)
It's such a short flight from the northeast to Ireland. Why not just fly cheapest Y nonstop?
Because some people like to treat their parents every once in a while!
I suspect that midnightinharlem meant to say: "Use BA Avios to fly EI from BOS to DUB." Since Avios uses a distance-based scheme, BOS-DUB -- which is just under 3,000 flown miles -- costs only 12,500 Avios one way in Economy, or 25,000 Avios one way in Business. By contrast, JFK-DUB on EI would cost 20,000 Avios one way in Economy, and 40,000 Avios one way in Business. But either EI routing requires fewer miles (Avios) than the alternatives available to the OP. And, as noted in my earlier post, BAEC surcharges on EI TATL flights are minuscule.

milesmuncher Nov 6, 2013 9:14 am
Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 21737986)
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I suspect that midnightinharlem meant to say: "Use BA Avios to fly EI from BOS to DUB." Since Avios uses a distance-based scheme, BOS-DUB -- which is just under 3,000 flown miles -- costs only 12,500 Avios one way in Economy, or 25,000 Avios one way in Business. By contrast, JFK-DUB on EI would cost 20,000 Avios one way in Economy, and 40,000 Avios one way in Business. But either EI routing requires fewer miles (Avios) than the alternatives available to the OP. And, as noted in my earlier post, BAEC surcharges on EI TATL flights are minuscule.
If you can get an AA segment from NYC-BOS it brings the cost down again somewhat vs. the direct flight from JFK (12.5K + 4.5K = 17K vs. 20K in economy). Not sure 3,000 each way is worth connecting IMO, but to each his own.

guv1976 Nov 6, 2013 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by milesmuncher
Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 21737986)
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I suspect that midnightinharlem meant to say: "Use BA Avios to fly EI from BOS to DUB." Since Avios uses a distance-based scheme, BOS-DUB -- which is just under 3,000 flown miles -- costs only 12,500 Avios one way in Economy, or 25,000 Avios one way in Business. By contrast, JFK-DUB on EI would cost 20,000 Avios one way in Economy, and 40,000 Avios one way in Business. But either EI routing requires fewer miles (Avios) than the alternatives available to the OP. And, as noted in my earlier post, BAEC surcharges on EI TATL flights are minuscule.
If you can get an AA segment from NYC-BOS it brings the cost down again somewhat vs. the direct flight from JFK (12.5K + 4.5K = 17K vs. 20K in economy). Not sure 3,000 each way is worth connecting IMO, but to each his own.
That's correct, but it will only be 17,000 Avios (in Economy) if you book it as two separate redemptions using Avios, and then you will not be protected in the event of a mis-connect at BOS. (If you try to book both flights as a single redemption with BAEC, you will be charged BAEC's much higher multi-partner redemption rate.)

Firewind Nov 6, 2013 11:21 pm
Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 21737986)
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry: BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.601 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/417)Since Avios uses a distance-based scheme, BOS-DUB -- which is just under 3,000 flown miles -- costs only 12,500 Avios one way in Economy, or 25,000 Avios one way in Business. By contrast, JFK-DUB on EI would cost 20,000 Avios one way in Economy, and 40,000 Avios one way in Business. But either EI routing requires fewer miles (Avios) than the alternatives available to the OP. And, as noted in my earlier post, BAEC surcharges on EI TATL flights are minuscule.
I have 38,000 orphan Avios (from several surveys by bmi's Diamond Club). I would like to do this -- BOS-DUB in Business, DUB-BOS in Coach. Opinion on Aer Lingus's Business Class? Thank you. :)


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