Delta DL vs. United UA [Consolidated]
#61
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: DL DM+5MM, AAGold MM, UA 1K+2MM, BA GGL,LH Senator, SPG Plat, HH Diamond, HY Plat
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I have flown over 5 million miles on DL and a million on UA. Service and food on Delta is much better than United. However, I have basically stopped flying Delta in favor of United because United miles can actually be redeemed at low award rates and Delta basically charges at least double sometimes triple for the same trips. For me that means all the miles logged on Delta are worth much less than on United, and international upgrades are possible on United from lower fares, on Delta over the years I never used the upgrade certificates because it was cheaper to find a discounted Business class fare.
#62
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 280
I have flown over 5 million miles on DL and a million on UA. Service and food on Delta is much better than United. However, I have basically stopped flying Delta in favor of United because United miles can actually be redeemed at low award rates and Delta basically charges at least double sometimes triple for the same trips. For me that means all the miles logged on Delta are worth much less than on United, and international upgrades are possible on United from lower fares, on Delta over the years I never used the upgrade certificates because it was cheaper to find a discounted Business class fare.
#63
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PSP
Programs: AA Plat4Life 3.9mm, UA, BA, Intergalactic Spacelines
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i have flown over 5 million miles on dl and a million on ua. Service and food on delta is much better than united. However, i have basically stopped flying delta in favor of united because united miles can actually be redeemed at low award rates and delta basically charges at least double sometimes triple for the same trips. For me that means all the miles logged on delta are worth much less than on united, and international upgrades are possible on united from lower fares, on delta over the years i never used the upgrade certificates because it was cheaper to find a discounted business class fare.
#64
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Recommend AA
Of course, AA could go downhill after the US merger, but that remains to be seen. And there's no guarantee that UA and DL won't go be going downhill also anyway.
OP, you might get further advice here if you're a bit more specific about your travel patterns (especially domestic) and about how many miles you fly per year.
#65
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I think even if I lived in Atlanta or Salt Lake, I'd choose United over Delta for miles. Around here, we call Delta miles SkyPesos for a reason.
#66
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hotlanta.
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AA won't take me from ATL to anywhere on the east coast in a reasonable way.
UA is "better" than AA for coverage out of ATL but connecting isn't really "worth it" for flights to BOS (for example).
US is even "better" than UA for my NE coverage but I just can't stand US.... Ive been elite on them in 2 different decades and have always felt "dirty".
DL skypesos suck. I do like DL flight attendants better than any other airline. I like DL planes more than any other airline as well. Their IFE is the best among the majors. Nonstop from ATL is very pleasant.
WN/Airtran... I don't like paying for bags and seats on airtran... and I find WN fares are frequently higher than DL fares. And with the gold Amex my DL bags are free so that little bennie isn't an advantage for WN.
One's "airline of choice" is such a personal decision. It's impossible to make blanket statements regarding what is "best". I happen to be willing to pay for F when I want to fly F, which also changes the dynamic... there's little benefit that elite status below 1K/EXP/DM would offer that I'm not already receiving.
#67
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As far as Skymiles are concerned, I once booked 3 X 25 K US domestic round trip tickets to Orlando (Outbound non-stop, inbound 1-stop) using Skymiles. Certainly my most memorable redemption ever .
#68
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: AA EXP2M, DL 1MM DM ext, UA PP <=> HH G/Marr PE/Hyatt G/IHG P FT RA ( Recovering Addict)
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As a DL elite and UA elite, for intl travel and upgrades, I can say go with UA.
DL M class fares are high for intl upgrades with SWUs.
UA you can get upgraded as long as it is a W+ fare.
That is like a K fare on DL (valid only for Domestic upgrades on DL SWUs).
On UA the SWUs can be used as RPUs valid on any domestic fare.
Also they are transferable.
If you try SIN on DL that may be OK at 120k for low via NRT, but for AF that counts as 2 awards - 1 to EU and 1 from EU to SIN = 220k in low Biz class.
So the deck is stacked against DL by DL
1
Rare low mileage awards
2
Partner availability difficult on AF and others, price more.
3
One way partner awards not available
4
SWUs very restrictive
5
Website useless
UA is better
1
Low mileage a-plenty
2
Partners a-plenty
3
One ways on partners
4
SWUs are transferable (either you can get 6 and use all 6 as a 1K with only 100k EQM, unlike DL 2+4 at 75 and 125k MQMs). Even if you do not get to 1K, you can ask friends to sponsor you for upgrades (not so on DL)
5
better website (hard to believe it was like DL website and based on same rules when in skyteam)
6
liberal routing rules
7
minor quirks like DL (I think due to skyteam genes)
e.g.
Saver C award available from KMG to PEK on CA, but saver economy from PEK to IAD on UA, the website will not let you add the two together as 1 saver biz award at 60k. Instead, it will charge you for the higher standard award at 150k.
The only way to get around is to book the Saver economy in a partner award and not on UA, e.g, CA or AC fro PEK to YVR or LAX and then lax to IAD on UA saver economy.
DL may charge you anything it likes, but in this instance, if low is available in all segments in biz and economy, it will price as a low biz (rare but true)
The best advice I saw above is if choosing to fly DL, credit to AS for status.
You can go JFK-HKG-SIN on Cathay, Emirates and use on AA and DL as well.
Hope that helps
DL M class fares are high for intl upgrades with SWUs.
UA you can get upgraded as long as it is a W+ fare.
That is like a K fare on DL (valid only for Domestic upgrades on DL SWUs).
On UA the SWUs can be used as RPUs valid on any domestic fare.
Also they are transferable.
If you try SIN on DL that may be OK at 120k for low via NRT, but for AF that counts as 2 awards - 1 to EU and 1 from EU to SIN = 220k in low Biz class.
So the deck is stacked against DL by DL
1
Rare low mileage awards
2
Partner availability difficult on AF and others, price more.
3
One way partner awards not available
4
SWUs very restrictive
5
Website useless
UA is better
1
Low mileage a-plenty
2
Partners a-plenty
3
One ways on partners
4
SWUs are transferable (either you can get 6 and use all 6 as a 1K with only 100k EQM, unlike DL 2+4 at 75 and 125k MQMs). Even if you do not get to 1K, you can ask friends to sponsor you for upgrades (not so on DL)
5
better website (hard to believe it was like DL website and based on same rules when in skyteam)
6
liberal routing rules
7
minor quirks like DL (I think due to skyteam genes)
e.g.
Saver C award available from KMG to PEK on CA, but saver economy from PEK to IAD on UA, the website will not let you add the two together as 1 saver biz award at 60k. Instead, it will charge you for the higher standard award at 150k.
The only way to get around is to book the Saver economy in a partner award and not on UA, e.g, CA or AC fro PEK to YVR or LAX and then lax to IAD on UA saver economy.
DL may charge you anything it likes, but in this instance, if low is available in all segments in biz and economy, it will price as a low biz (rare but true)
The best advice I saw above is if choosing to fly DL, credit to AS for status.
You can go JFK-HKG-SIN on Cathay, Emirates and use on AA and DL as well.
Hope that helps
#70
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LAX
Posts: 2,851
United by far. However, I was able to book a 100k Biz class on Delta for my summer 2013 travel. And I guess, if it was a simple RT without open jaws, stop over , and flexible dates for traveling, you can score the low level redemption on delta.
#71
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Inverness FL
Programs: American, United, Alaska, IHG Gold, Amtrak
Posts: 58
I just booked and 8 leg trip with miles all in premium class on UA to a destination only they serve /Micronesia/ website was easy to navigate and when I did have to call in to M. P. they were nice and helpful. Many of my friends that used to be Delta hard cores have moved on to other carriers. My UA experience has been great minus the old CO inflight service which I admit I miss.
#72
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 7
Advice: DL or UA Silver?
Hello all,
I have run some numbers on my flying plans for the next couple of years and noticed that I could have Silver status on Delta or United starting 1 Jan 2013 or 1 Jan 2014 respectively. Initially, I thought going with Delta would be best since I have been treated very well flying between RDU and FRA (I have been bumped to BuisnessElite on two returns). However, the introduction of MQDs has made me skeptical not to mention prevented me from gaining Gold the following year (partially through rollover). I am based out of RDU, make two transatlantic trips per year and several transcontinental trips. Are there any benefits which United Silver provides which Delta Silver lacks? Are there any major benefits to one over the other?
Thanks in advance.
I have run some numbers on my flying plans for the next couple of years and noticed that I could have Silver status on Delta or United starting 1 Jan 2013 or 1 Jan 2014 respectively. Initially, I thought going with Delta would be best since I have been treated very well flying between RDU and FRA (I have been bumped to BuisnessElite on two returns). However, the introduction of MQDs has made me skeptical not to mention prevented me from gaining Gold the following year (partially through rollover). I am based out of RDU, make two transatlantic trips per year and several transcontinental trips. Are there any benefits which United Silver provides which Delta Silver lacks? Are there any major benefits to one over the other?
Thanks in advance.