i don't think any indian citizen will get global entry based on a report from the indian police....the police verification is just one of the initial steps in the process....the relevant authorities in the us will make a decision after they receive the report from the rpo....i'm sure if they have reason to doubt any of that info then the application will be rejected....

To be clear, based on one of the posts above, the CBP did not require this! Not sure why India is making people return for in person interviews...the CBP does one here anyway.

not sure why india has this requirement....the most likely explanation is that it was not thought through & implemented in a hurry....similar to many other decisions this current government has taken....

another reason could be additional revenue for giving clearance....swiss & uk citizens also have to pay their own government to get clearance before their global entry application is considered....even german & mexican citizens have to be cleared by their own police or government before their global entry eligibility is considered, but i don't think they have to pay for the clearance....the only difference between these other countries & india is that all others have a streamlined process that makes it easy for their citizens to go through this process....

india definitely did not think this through....but i'm glad they are looking into it....as time goes on i'm sure the process will become easier....indian citizens living outside the country should not be made to return for police verification....that simply makes no sense....

Thanks Keyser for sharing the information. I'm a resident in US and will be visiting next month. While I can complete the PSK formalities, I'm not sure how they will complete police verification as I'm there for 2 days only. Did they tell you how long it will take for them to inform CBP of the clearance?

which city will you be in????you can always request the head passport officer at the rpo to get the verification done quickly....i know they have the ability to expedite it since mine was done on the same day....

i was told the rpo would receive the police clearance with 3 days of the police verification & they would upload the information the same or very next day....

I'll be in Mumbai. Looking to book appointment at the Lower Parel office.
Many years ago when I renewed my passport in Mumbai - I had received a post card and had to take that to police station for my verification. Its news to me now that police come home to verify.

Police coming to houses to verify has been going on in various parts of India for decades. While it isn't a common experience, there is enough of it that I've seen it done while at some homes in India.

I'm amazed how Indian Ambassador Navejt Sarna got his Global Entry card without verification :)
I guess diplomatic passports are exempted from police verification - hence even he was clueless on the PSK emails

no they are not....my parents hold diplomatic passports & they both had to go through the police verification....

giving the indian ambassador his global entry card so quickly was just another pr stunt....so they must have had special permission to bypass the verification....

That said, foreigners don't get a GE card, only US citzens get one. In the beginning they used to put a tiny sticker into your passport at the interview, even that is gone. Now all you have a is a generic letter you can print out from the GOES website.

interesting....i wonder why they don't give cards to everyone????i mean if you have membership then why not the membership card????

Not much great use for the card unless going by surface means of sort into the US. Otherwise, it's just another US-issued ID. Well, the Canadian officials seem to like it too for some purposes, but otherwise there isn't much use for it other than it's a card that has the KTN number on it for PreCheck; but that number is also in the GOES account/conditional approval letter.

The USG doesn't want to issue US ID to a lot more types of non-US persons; and issuing and mailing the ID cards for non-US persons would be more or less a waste of money and/or come with increased fees/costs.

Having the GE card doesn't mean the GE membership is valid.

PR show indeed. No new Indian police verification for loading him up for Global Entry was required. He wasn't subject to the normal process, but that wasn't because he has an A-1 US visa. IFS and other Indians with diplomatic passports are ordinarily subject to police verification if seeking GE membership -- at least that tied to ordinary Indian passports.

fair enough....but i still see no harm in issuing a different version of the card for non-us citizens....some people are old school & they just like to have membership cards....

even if it came with an increased cost, i'm sure many would be willing to pay for it to be delivered to their non-us mailing address....in fact, it could be an added revenue steam to have the cards issued to those who opted for it....

What Global Entry Application ID is everyone using for the PSK form? The GOES ID is different than the GEP ID we get in email from PSK.

the gep id....

Right on the money on all counts except that it is not limited to THIS government.

Cannot attend parent's funeral because you went to see her at time of bypass surgery two month earlier - was from Kangress govt. (Italian lady even scolded Shashi Tharroor for pointing out stupidity)

National security is at risk if guy obtaining OCI at age 49, does not go through almost all of stupid process all over again if he gets new US/UK passport at age 51 - Thats holdover from Kangress too.

Unfortunate reality is that most stupid details are worked out by stupid bureucrates baboos and elected govt official lack intelligence or care to catch/fix stupidity.

There are many other such things:
a) Indian govt official declare on its websites that OCI and NRI are on parity for financial and educational matters but OCI were excluded from exchanging 500 Rs notes
b) Electric utilies are being told (and Reliance has started) to stop accepting advance bill payments
c) A handicapped bed ridden person needs to be taken to nearest airtel center in ambulence and wait 2 hours for thumb print (giving copy of aadhaar card is not enough) otherwise sim will be (eventually) cancelled

List can go on...Problem is not with Current or Past or Future government.
It is in India's (bureaucratic) DNA.

Nothing to do with bureaucratic "DNA". Everything to do with elected officials' "DNA". As much as I find bureaucracy a beast in India, it's elected officials that have made this scene what it is. The elected government officials want a PR show, so they roll out one without appreciating that they should get the bureaucratic ducks in order first or at the same time at least.

The more things change, the more they remain the same. And that goes to show with the rollout of this GE scheme for Indians -- especially as elected officials and their handpicked ones drove this show.

How did your interview go? Any pointers or words of wisdom based on your interview?

very true....the previous government was no better....

the difference between the two governments is that the previous one took ages to implement policies & when they did the rules often made no sense....the current government is in a hurry to announce schemes & policies but there is no implementation in place....the scheme gets announced but in reality the scheme still doesn't exist....

i don't know which one is worse....

i would disagree....the babus are not as bad as they used to be....having to deal with these guys on pretty much a daily basis, my analysis is that it is the government in power that does the damage....

in the past these bureaucratic babus had the luxury of time & information to come up with details....they got some right & they got some wrong....now i have noticed that they neither have the time nor information....they are told with no notice at all that a policy is going into effect & are then left scrambling for details to put the information together with no help coming from the respective ministries because they too have no clue whats going on....

once again, i don't know which is worse....

i couldn't agree more....

read post 21 of this thread....

after my experience of being the first applicant in india, a friend of mine went for his interview earlier this week....his experience was very different from mine....they knew what they had to do....they checked & uploaded his documents, scanned his fingerprints, took his picture & he was out of there in under 30 minutes....a couple of days later he got a call for his police verification & that is being done today....

i think they are getting their ducks in order now & the process should be pretty smooth from now on....

Keyser - in which city/office did you and your friend complete the PSK interview?

My issue is I will be in Mumbai 25th - 28th Aug (25th being a holiday) and again from
Sep 30 - Oct 2(Again, holidays). I was hoping I can complete PSK formalities on 28th Aug and am not sure if I need to me in Mumbai for police verification(we know our local cops, parents can provide all info/ID/Ration Card etc...). Worst case I can go see them when I am back in Sept. Do we need to be physically present for police verification?

What am I doing wrong
 

I applied for the Global entry program on July 6th. However, I have not gotten any email from the passport seva kendra service. I also tried applying directly on Passport Kendra website and it is not recognizing my Global enrollment id. Did you get a message on the GOES website? I haven't gotten any message there too.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong? Any suggestions? I put the current address as my US address and am wondering if that is what made it wrong.

Cheers,

both of us completed the process in delhi....

unfortunately you need to be physically present for the police verification....your rpo officer has the ability to get the police verification done on the same day....there is no harm in asking when you go for your interview....

Thanks Keyser - I'll give it a shot. Do share once your application progresses to CBP Interview stage

will do....its been over 2 weeks since i applied on the goes website & over a week since my info was approved & uploaded by the rpo....still waiting for conditional approval....

I know the nearest Indian embassy does PCC as well.
for example, http://www.cgitoronto.ca/content/pol...ce-certificate

I have my interview in Hyderabad on Monday. I will update the thread with my inyerview experience

as if my interview process at the rpo wasn't confusing enough, even today the confusion continues....

this morning i got a call from the police asking me when he can come over to my house for the verification....i asked him what this was for & he said i had an appointment at the rpo last week & this was the follow up police verification they are supposed to complete....i told him my police verification was not only complete but the rpo has already received the report & it has been uploaded & sent to the relevant authorities....all of this happened last week....he seemed really confused & said he would check & call me back....

an hour later he called back to let me know that he had checked with the rpo & the verification was indeed complete but there was confusion since their system was still showing it in pending status....i asked him how that was possible & he said he would check & get back to me....:rolleyes:

Incredible!

Mexican citizens get the card as well.

Hey, thanks a lot for sharing your experience. Curious to know what types of documents were requested during the appointment with the PSK or the police inspection. Is a passport sufficient or are any other Indian documents necessary (aadhar card, etc.). Thanks!

Adding my experience.
I got done with my PSK appt on July 5th (I was the first GEP applicant in my state, with 4 more lined up behind me). I had to explain what GEP is all about to the officer in charge.
My Police Verification was done 3 days later but the application status still states "Police Verification has been initiated".

You need address proof in India. Aadhar or Voter ID card.

he called back later in the day to say everything was in order....the verification was done last week & the information was sent to the rpo but the person who did the verification forgot to close our file at the police station so it was still showing in pending status....

like i said before, i don't see the harm in giving cards to anyone who wants it....i'm sure lots of people would opt for the card even if they decided to charge a small fee for it....

he just wanted to see one form of id to verify the address....i had a bunch of things like my passport, aadhar card, mtnl bill, etc....but he just looked at the passport & was satisfied....

Thank you for sharing all this information Keyser. I had a question: the address on my passport is not current (My current permanent address is actually in another State in India than the one on my passport). Is this going to be problematic? Does the passport address have to match what address you provide in your application? I have other documents such as drivers license as proof of my current address.

My interview was on 7/17 in Hyderabad. Took about 30 mins to move through different counters and was pretty easy. My passport has my US address but I have my aadhar card with hyderabad address which was good enough. The police guy came today for verification.i will wait for my status on India passport site to update and wait for next steps if any

you should be ok as long as you have other documents as proof of id.....

my status on the passport seva website still shows that police verification has been been initiated for my application....the verification was done almost 20 days ago & according to the rpo my application has already been submitted....