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uptownnow Apr 2, 2010 10:23 pm

BOM Transit - Visa Question
 
Hi everybody!

I have scoured the web and made phone calls, but can not find a definitive answer to the following:

My wife and I will be traveling in a couple weeks from ICN - BOM on Korean Airways. We have three hours in BOM to connect to a BOM - DAR flight on Qatar Airways. Our Korean and Qatar tickets were booked separately.

So, the question is: do we need an Indian transit visa for this or not. Some say "yes definitely," others say "absolutely not."

I would actually rather just go ahead and get the visa just to be safe, but between now and when we leave, we are in Indonesia for a week, then Saigon for three days, then Seoul for two days, and I can't find any information if US/Canadian nationals can get Indian visas that quickly in any of these places.

Thank you so much in advance for any advice you may have... this one is hard to figure out!

Mr. Bean Apr 3, 2010 12:45 am


Originally Posted by uptownnow (Post 13700979)
So, the question is: do we need an Indian transit visa for this or not.

Normally it's not needed, but since you're on separate tickets, you might have to get one if you check luggage, as you'll most likely have to claim and re-check it.


Originally Posted by uptownnow (Post 13700979)
I would actually rather just go ahead and get the visa just to be safe, but between now and when we leave, we are in Indonesia for a week, then Saigon for three days, then Seoul for two days, and I can't find any information if US/Canadian nationals can get Indian visas that quickly in any of these places.

Maybe they can rush it in a week in Indonesia; I'm not really sure.

If you don't have any checked luggage then you technically don't need a transit visa, but you'll wish you had one if you misconnect. Not sure if they grant emergency transit visas in BOM, if that becomes necessary.

LH757 Apr 3, 2010 10:26 am

First of all, you will not be allowed for BOM by KE as you do not have a visa. QR tickets are considered as seperate bookings ex-India. :confused:

You will need transit visa:

1. You certainly have to pass immigration as you will have to check-in with QR airport side desk located on 2nd floor.

2. You cannot use air-side transit as you have 2 seperate tickets, and are considered as pax travelling ex-India.

3. Air-side transit is generally designed for people booked on through tickets via BOM.

India is usually strict with Visas, and are never issued on arrival.

snod08 Apr 3, 2010 9:06 pm


Originally Posted by LH757 (Post 13702542)
First of all, you will not be allowed for BOM by KE as you do not have a visa. QR tickets are considered as seperate bookings ex-India. :confused:

You will need transit visa:

1. You certainly have to pass immigration as you will have to check-in with QR airport side desk located on 2nd floor.

2. You cannot use air-side transit as you have 2 seperate tickets, and are considered as pax travelling ex-India.

3. Air-side transit is generally designed for people booked on through tickets via BOM.

India is usually strict with Visas, and are never issued on arrival.

This is the best answer especially for #1 above.
Get your transit visa.

flyinsikh Apr 3, 2010 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by LH757 (Post 13702542)
First of all, you will not be allowed for BOM by KE as you do not have a visa. QR tickets are considered as seperate bookings ex-India. :confused:

You will need transit visa:

1. You certainly have to pass immigration as you will have to check-in with QR airport side desk located on 2nd floor.

2. You cannot use air-side transit as you have 2 seperate tickets, and are considered as pax travelling ex-India.

3. Air-side transit is generally designed for people booked on through tickets via BOM.

India is usually strict with Visas, and are never issued on arrival.

+1, on my recent trip to DEL, the check-in agent ex SYD checked my passport for a valid Indian Tourist Visa before my boarding pass was issued, thus what LH757 is correct, as KE can refuse boarding. Most likely what you need is a "Transit Visa".

Transit visas are valid for halts of up to 72 hours in India within 15 days from the date of issue of the visa and must be obtained before departure. Transit Visas cannot be obtained from immigration counters at ports of entry in India. Evidence of onward travel to a destination outside India is required.
http://www.vfs-in-au.net/transit.html This is from an Australian website, but this most likely fits your description of 2 seperate tickets. ^ cheers

Mr. Bean Apr 3, 2010 10:42 pm

The OP does not need a visa unless he needs to exit the airport. Staff can arrange for check-in airside. This will be much easier if not travelling with checked luggage, though it may be do-able even with checked luggage.

KE should not deny boarding since the OP is transiting and a visa is not necessary to transit in BOM. The best thing to do would be to ask them to interline the bags through to DAR at check-in in ICN.

flyinsikh Apr 4, 2010 12:03 am


Originally Posted by Mr. Bean (Post 13705220)
The OP does not need a visa unless he needs to exit the airport. Staff can arrange for check-in airside. This will be much easier if not travelling with checked luggage, though it may be do-able even with checked luggage.

KE should not deny boarding since the OP is transiting and a visa is not necessary to transit in BOM. The best thing to do would be to ask them to interline the bags through to DAR at check-in in ICN.

I agree with you, however the only concern is the OP is travelling on two seperate tickets, if it was on a single ticket than I guess nothing to worry about, otherwise it's best to re-confirm with KE, rather than have problems during check in. As the previous posters have suggested they might need to collect baggage and re-check it, if KE does not interline, and hence then they may need to clear immigration. If the OP does not have checked baggage, I am sure BOM would have facilities to stay airside & connect with QR ??

Buttwiser Apr 4, 2010 10:29 pm

Will KE be issuing your QR boarding passes? If not, then you might have to collect your luggage at BOM and then get your QR boarding passes issued. You will definitely require a visa. Visa on arrival is available to nationals of a few countries - Finland, Japan, Luxembourg, New Zealand and Singapore.

B747-437B Apr 4, 2010 11:57 pm

You absolutely DO NOT require a visa regardless of how many tickets you are traveling on. You will also struggle for time to clear immigration, collect luggage, clear customs, head back upstairs, checkin again, clear immigration, clear security and board your next flight if you choose to go landside.

In contrast, you can head directly for the international transfers desk (there is NEVER a line there and it is very well signposted) where your boarding pass can be issued in 30 seconds flat and then to the dedicated security checkpoint just beyond. If your bags are checked through, you can be at your next flight departure gate within 2-3 minutes of disembarking your inbound. If they are not checked through, give your tag numbers to the staff and they will make the necessary arrangements to retag the bags.

kshastry Apr 5, 2010 1:25 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13710508)
You absolutely DO NOT require a visa regardless of how many tickets you are traveling on.

The question is whether KE check-in staff would allow the OP to board the flight to BOM at all. I would guess this depends on the discretion of duty manager there.

Recently I was in a 'similar' situation. I was travelling from KUL to DXB on EK with a pre-arranged 96 hour UAE visa. I was to leave UAE after 4 days. When I gave them my outbound ticket, the check-in staff at KUL analyzed and found out that I was leaving UAE after 98 hours. So, they almost refused to board me to DXB. (They even refused to consider the fact that I could have arranged for a different ticket to leave well before 96 hours).

B747-437B Apr 5, 2010 4:17 am


Originally Posted by kshastry (Post 13710700)
The question is whether KE check-in staff would allow the OP to board the flight to BOM at all.

The question is whether he requires a visa. The answer is NO, he does not require a visa.

Whether he may be hassled by the airline at boarding is an entirely different question and the honest answer is that even with a visa he might be hassled by the airline for a thousand different reasons! :)

flyinsikh Apr 5, 2010 6:47 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 13710508)
You absolutely DO NOT require a visa regardless of how many tickets you are traveling on. You will also struggle for time to clear immigration, collect luggage, clear customs, head back upstairs, checkin again, clear immigration, clear security and board your next flight if you choose to go landside.

In contrast, you can head directly for the international transfers desk (there is NEVER a line there and it is very well signposted) where your boarding pass can be issued in 30 seconds flat and then to the dedicated security checkpoint just beyond. If your bags are checked through, you can be at your next flight departure gate within 2-3 minutes of disembarking your inbound. If they are not checked through, give your tag numbers to the staff and they will make the necessary arrangements to retag the bags.

Hi there, not having a go at you but just asking for future reference, if we do not have an Indian Visa is there a process in place to clear immigration/customs? I guess if we can show the immigration officer/s the onward connecting flight tickets, that departs within the next 2-3 hours, they might flex??
cheers^

B747-437B Apr 5, 2010 6:52 am


Originally Posted by flyinsikh (Post 13711332)
if we do not have an Indian Visa is there a process in place to clear immigration/customs? I guess if we can show the immigration officer/s the onward connecting flight tickets, that departs within the next 2-3 hours, they might flex??

Flexibility on the part of immigration officer = Nil.

Emergency visas can be arranged in VERY limited circumstances but will require the airline to sponsor them and other hoops jumped through. Do not consider this option.

If you have a flight departing within 2-3 hours, you do not need to clear immigration - just proceed to the International Transfer desk and let the staff there sort everything out for you. There are dozens if not hundreds of passengers who do this daily.

uptownnow Apr 5, 2010 8:59 am

The OP Here
 
Wow, thank you all SO MUCH for the in-depth answers -- Try as I might, I could not get this info anywhere else, so thank you FT'ers!

So, it seems like the definitive answer is: we DO NOT in reality need a transit visa, however Korean Air may think we do and stop us from boarding.

I'd like to get the transit visa as insurance, but from my phone calls to various Indian consulates and high commissions where I will be before India (Indonesia 5 days, Saigon 3 days, Seoul 2 days), there is apparently no way to get a transit visa that fast.

I guess it will be up to the manager on duty at Korean Air that night in Seoul. Perhaps I will print this thread out for evidence that it's ok. :-)

Thanks again, everyone (and PLZ let me know if you know how to get an Indian transit visa in any of the above cities in the time I have)...

B747-437B Apr 5, 2010 9:17 am


Originally Posted by uptownnow (Post 13711976)
PLZ let me know if you know how to get an Indian transit visa in any of the above cities in the time I have...

My experience is that going to the visa section of any country in person and stating simply that you need a visa within "x" days (provided "x" is not unreasonable - like demanding a visa for travel the next morning) will usually get you the visa as quick as possible. Indian visas CAN be processed overnight, so asking for next day service is not a stretch. Offering to pay a "surcharge" (official or unofficial) also helps sometimes. Look up the name of the Head of Visa Section ("First Secretary - Consular" might be the title) and ask to speak to them directly - you probably won't get that far but name dropping ALWAYS helps.


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