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Jet Scouting For Secondary Hub - Semi-Official

Jet Scouting For Secondary Hub - Semi-Official

Old Aug 25, 08, 7:12 am
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Jet Scouting For Secondary Hub - Semi-Official

FYI - Times of India, 25 August 2008: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/B...ow/3400710.cms

"Jet Airways may have curtailed its domestic footprint, but the Naresh Goyal-owned carrier has started scouting for a second hub in Europe after Brussels.

This hub would be in a central European country like Switzerland, Italy or Germany and is likely to be activated in 2009-10 when Jet is scheduled to launch the next phase of its international operations by adding new destinations and also increasing frequencies to existing ones in the Gulf."
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Old Aug 25, 08, 7:29 am
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It does state that Brussels is to be expanded first both to India & across the Atlantic. Perhaps this is simply to counter Kingfisher/Air India's intentions to open european hubs.
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Old Aug 25, 08, 7:34 am
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It does state that Brussels is to be expanded first both to India & across the Atlantic. Perhaps this is simply to counter Kingfisher/Air India's intentions to open european hubs.
Yes, but since BRU is not that great (imo), I would also have a backup hub in place to allow continuous ops in Europe, if possible.

There is the possibility to work something in VIE / MXP, obviously, as OS / AZ are struggling, and could use these airlines as European feeders for Indian/USA/other pax... (Noting that AZ might not have any feeder ops in MXP right now, but others like AirOne??? (not an expert with MXP!))

Since 9w cooperates with LH as well, this (AirOne) might be a possibility...
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Old Aug 29, 08, 11:29 pm
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Coincidentially enough, this is almost the same time as when LH announced buying out SN Brussels ..

Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy View Post
FYI - Times of India, 25 August 2008: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/B...ow/3400710.cms

"Jet Airways may have curtailed its domestic footprint, but the Naresh Goyal-owned carrier has started scouting for a second hub in Europe after Brussels.

This hub would be in a central European country like Switzerland, Italy or Germany and is likely to be activated in 2009-10 when Jet is scheduled to launch the next phase of its international operations by adding new destinations and also increasing frequencies to existing ones in the Gulf."
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Old Aug 29, 08, 11:49 pm
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Coincidentially enough, this is almost the same time as when LH announced buying out SN Brussels ..
Yup....not good, imo!
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Old Sep 8, 08, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy View Post
Yes, but since BRU is not that great (imo), I would also have a backup hub in place to allow continuous ops in Europe, if possible.

There is the possibility to work something in VIE / MXP, obviously, as OS / AZ are struggling, and could use these airlines as European feeders for Indian/USA/other pax... (Noting that AZ might not have any feeder ops in MXP right now, but others like AirOne??? (not an expert with MXP!))

Since 9w cooperates with LH as well, this (AirOne) might be a possibility...
Why do you think BRU isn't that great? It's a relativel uncongested hub lacking a major carrier offering many services to North America & eastwards & it lies more or less on what would be a direct flight path minimising extra journey time.

What I don't understand is that people are assuming that BRU has reached it's full potential & that an alternative is being reached. Of course 9W are going to constantly review there operations & objectives as well as planning for the future. It states the next round of expansion in Europe is around 2009-2010 which is a long way off in an industry like this. Who knows what shocking price oil will be then? I beleive that there are still many city pairs that could work through BRU, & if 9W is at it's peak there then PVG should be heading in a similar direction (eg. DEL-PVG-LAX)
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Old Sep 8, 08, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by flyboy777 View Post
Why do you think BRU isn't that great? It's a relativel uncongested hub lacking a major carrier offering many services to North America & eastwards & it lies more or less on what would be a direct flight path minimising extra journey time.

What I don't understand is that people are assuming that BRU has reached it's full potential & that an alternative is being reached. Of course 9W are going to constantly review there operations & objectives as well as planning for the future. It states the next round of expansion in Europe is around 2009-2010 which is a long way off in an industry like this. Who knows what shocking price oil will be then? I beleive that there are still many city pairs that could work through BRU, & if 9W is at it's peak there then PVG should be heading in a similar direction (eg. DEL-PVG-LAX)
A bigger airport that has lots of flights departing makes it easier for pax in IRROPS situations. Moreover, a bigger airport with flights to many destinations makes your flights more likley to be sold to make connections. It expands your potential market.

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9W putting expansion on hold

Originally Posted by flyboy777 View Post
Why do you think BRU isn't that great? It's a relativel uncongested hub lacking a major carrier offering many services to North America & eastwards & it lies more or less on what would be a direct flight path minimising extra journey time.

What I don't understand is that people are assuming that BRU has reached it's full potential & that an alternative is being reached. Of course 9W are going to constantly review there operations & objectives as well as planning for the future. It states the next round of expansion in Europe is around 2009-2010 which is a long way off in an industry like this. Who knows what shocking price oil will be then? I beleive that there are still many city pairs that could work through BRU, & if 9W is at it's peak there then PVG should be heading in a similar direction (eg. DEL-PVG-LAX)
9W is trying to defer the 2 777s it was due to receive in 2009. Also, it has publicly stated that it's putting further intnl expansion on hold and instead is focusing on making its current routes profitable (consolidate first). They have cut the frequency on SFO-PVG-BOM route, so I doubt if DEL-PVG-LAX is in the cards.

The one remaining long haul route they're sticking to is BLR-BRU to connect to the flts BRU-EWR, BRU-JFK and BRU-YYZ. This seems to be designed to improve the load factor on the transcon segments even at the risk of having thinner traffic on BLR-BRU.
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