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Pax pees on another pax ( JFK-DEL AI 102 / 26 NOV)

Pax pees on another pax ( JFK-DEL AI 102 / 26 NOV)

Old Jan 4, 2023, 5:52 am
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Talking Pax pees on another pax ( JFK-DEL AI 102 / 26 NOV)

Emirates might have free showers in business class, but Air India has one upped them with free golden showers on long haul business class.

https://www.india.com/news/india/bre...-days-5838198/
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Old Jan 4, 2023, 7:26 am
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safe to assume that the lady got pissed off after the incident.
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Old Jan 4, 2023, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by j8s8er
Emirates might have free showers in business class, but Air India has one upped them with free golden showers on long haul business class.

https://www.india.com/news/india/bre...-days-5838198/
Kudos to AI really good job letting the person go scot free and slapping an amazing 30 day ban!! Wow!

I'm guessing this person is a related or connected person.

Truly shameful behaviour by cabin and flight crew. They need to be punished too.
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Old Jan 4, 2023, 10:25 am
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Really!!! AI - This is gross

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Old Jan 6, 2023, 4:28 am
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Yikes, another one - https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/anot...lanket-3666222
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Old Jan 6, 2023, 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn
Kudos to AI really good job letting the person go scot free and slapping an amazing 30 day ban!! Wow!

I'm guessing this person is a related or connected person.

Truly shameful behaviour by cabin and flight crew. They need to be punished too.
Now that the complaint has been registered, the ban will be significantly longer. So will the jail time once he is arrested. As of this morning he was on the run.
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Old Jan 6, 2023, 6:48 am
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Now that the complaint has been registered, the ban will be significantly longer. So will the jail time once he is arrested. As of this morning he was on the run.
What's the word on the identity of this person?

AI staff need to be punished too.
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Old Jan 6, 2023, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn
What's the word on the identity of this person?

AI staff need to be punished too.
Seemed to be a Vice President as Wells Fargo in Mumbai. He has been fired from his job. Is currently on the run & is communicating through his lawyers. At some point over the next day or so he will either turn himself in or will be nabbed by the police.

AI staff definitely needs to be punished too. They initially said that the woman was provided another comparable seat in the same class however it turns out that she was given a jump seat & then later told to return to her urine soaked seat. There was a seat available in First class however the pilot refused to give that to her. The cabin staff & pilot both need to answer for their actions.
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Old Jan 6, 2023, 12:09 pm
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/96797289.cms

He is identified in this article. Delhi police is investigating this incident and wants to questions the flight crew.
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Old Jan 7, 2023, 12:27 am
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Far from the worst behavior on an AI flight.
Is there any location on an AI flight where passengers won’t pee? Judging by what cleaning staffs all over the world say, the answer is “no.”
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Old Jan 7, 2023, 12:53 am
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Wells Fargo VP... I wonder why he was let go that easily...
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Old Jan 7, 2023, 1:10 am
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Dealing with unruly pax is tricky... weird that the lady who was peed on didn't raise a stinker on board itself. And why did it take 40 days to come out? Very weird. Considering many things are not documented (and no court has found him guilty) the way the media went all out publishing his name and getting him fired is probably also wrong?
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Old Jan 7, 2023, 3:54 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Dealing with unruly pax is tricky... weird that the lady who was peed on didn't raise a stinker on board itself. And why did it take 40 days to come out? Very weird. Considering many things are not documented (and no court has found him guilty) the way the media went all out publishing his name and getting him fired is probably also wrong?
So it seems like the timeline went something like this:

Male passenger in a drunken state allegedly pees on female passenger sitting next to him. Female passenger complains to the crew who offer her a pajama set & socks. They disinfect the peed upon area & items however refuse to clean or remove them from the seat. Crew then claims they gave the passenger another comparable seat which the passenger says turned out to be a jumpseat used by the crew. Another passenger pointed out that a seat was available in First class however the pilot refused to give that to her. The female passenger wanted to file a complaint however the crew brought over the male passenger to her against her wishes & made him apologize. In an already confused & shocked state the female passenger agrees not to press charges & the 2 passengers exchange phone numbers regarding compensation. AI believes it has done enough & considers the matter closed.

Over the next couple of days the 2 passengers exchange multiple messages regarding the amount that needs to be paid for cleaning of the clothes & items that were peed upon. The male passenger transfers INR 15,000 via Paytm to the female passenger.

The female passengers asks AI for a refund which AI initially seemed to have approved however the passenger claims that only a partial amount was refunded to her. Based on this action the female passenger decides to go ahead with her complaint against both AI & the male passenger.

Apparently multiple hearings take place in the month of December within AI to resolve the matter but the female passenger, unhappy with the response, decides to go ahead with the complaint.

Somewhere in between all this, the daughter of the female passenger returns the INR 15,000 to the male passenger claiming that they never asked for any money to be paid to them.

FIR is registered in Delhi & the matter comes to light whereby the media, calling this incident 'Peegate', decide to hold the male passenger guilty which leads to his company terminating his services & him going on the run. He starts communicating with the media & police through his lawyers & father. The former claims that the peeing incident took place but the issue had been resolved between the parties & adequate agreed upon compensation was paid. The later says there was no peeing incident & his son is being framed.

Male passenger is arrested last evening in Bengaluru & brought back to Delhi. He was presented before a Magistrate today who has sent him to 14 days judicial custody.
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Old Jan 7, 2023, 6:07 am
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AI statement:


Now it seems there was some kind of internal investigation
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Old Jan 7, 2023, 7:44 am
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The victim's delayed response is understandable. There is a common initial impulse to want the embarrassing issue to be covered up, and even to blame oneself. Rape victims feel the same things.

The big issue is how poorly and unprofessionally AI handled the matter. This will affect AI's image rebuilding for years. It is AI's Dr. Dao moment.
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