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AI B777 Fleet adjustments (Refurb B77W, Retire B77L, Lease B77E)

Old Dec 21, 2023, 2:51 am
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B777-200LR (Ex-Delta) - VT-AEE/F/G/H/I
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F8 C40 Y280 - Seatmap
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AI B777 Fleet adjustments (Refurb B77W, Retire B77L, Lease B77E)

Old Sep 25, 2022, 12:24 pm
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Are they going to run the DL planes on DEL-SFO or on new routes? Asking because DEL-SFO, which is a money printer given no competition, still has the old angled flat seats in business and you would think you could get higher yields with better seats in business and a premium economy section!

They also don't seem to have loaded the BLR-SFO flight even though a bunch of news articles suggest it is coming back at the end of October.
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Old Sep 26, 2022, 1:36 am
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SFO will get the leased B77L as AI is selling theirs.
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Old Sep 26, 2022, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
SFO will get the leased B77L as AI is selling theirs.
Ah, got it. But unclear if they are selling them before they get the new ones, right?

And do the 77Ws not have the range for SFO? I thought AI used to fly them to SFO but could be mis-remembering.

I guess on the plus side, all AI flights to the US will now have lie-flat business instead of the crappy angled flat product on their 77Ls?
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Old Sep 26, 2022, 3:35 am
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AFAIR the B77W can't do SFO. All B77L have the crappy avio interiors angled flat. A few B77W have the same seat as the B787 (Zodiac Lie Flat) but most of the the same angled flat of the B77L: Air India Longhaul B77W B77L B787 Seats
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Old Sep 26, 2022, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
AFAIR the B77W can't do SFO. All B77L have the crappy avio interiors angled flat. A few B77W have the same seat as the B787 (Zodiac Lie Flat) but most of the the same angled flat of the B77L: Air India Longhaul B77W B77L B787 Seats
Ahh ok, I thought all the B77Ws had the lie flat seats per Seat Guru. Didn't realize some don't.
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Old Sep 27, 2022, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
AFAIR the B77W can't do SFO. All B77L have the crappy avio interiors angled flat. A few B77W have the same seat as the B787 (Zodiac Lie Flat) but most of the the same angled flat of the B77L: Air India Longhaul B77W B77L B787 Seats
77Ws have been used on DEL-SFO multiple times. Sometime early this year when AI was operating HYD-ORD and BLR-SFO, AI had a 77W scheduled for 3/wk DEL-SFO. The flying time for DEL-SFO-DEL is around or less than BOM-EWR or DEL-ORD.

IMO AI should deploy the ex-Delta 777s on DEL-JFK/EWR/ORD where is there is competition from AA/UA. For other routes like BOM-EWR/SFO, DEL-IAD/SFO etc having the old planes should be fine since AI has a monopoly.
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Old Sep 27, 2022, 3:05 pm
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B77L have significantly less capacity than B77W. If they used the latter to SFO it was with a weight penalty.
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Old Sep 27, 2022, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
B77L have significantly less capacity than B77W. If they used the latter to SFO it was with a weight penalty.
For 14.5-15 hour flying time, AI's 77W do not need a weight penalty. AI has been using the 77W on BOM-EWR/ DEL-ORD for the past 10+ years.

AI applies a weight penalty on BOM-EWR during the winter months when flying time exceeds 16+ hours.

And for the past few days, AI has indeed been using the 77W on DEL-SFO: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ai173

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ai191
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Old Sep 30, 2022, 7:19 am
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The first B77L (N706DN) is on its way to SIN : https://www.flightradar24.com/N706DN/2daa032c

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Old Oct 4, 2022, 5:46 am
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BOM-SFO flight are now bookable online and BLR-SFO as well. Will these have the new B77Ls? Google Flights shows an angled lie-flat seat.
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Old Oct 4, 2022, 6:34 am
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All flights have been filed with the usual AI B77L. But F is not on sale for the new flights, so maybe they will switch to the new equiment once its confirmed to be ready:


Code:
doai179/15dec
DOAI179/15DEC
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              AI 179   72 TH 15DEC22    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL  
BOM          1430  TH FACDJZYBMHK/-       77L        16:00      
                      QVWGLUTSP/-                               
SFO 1700  TH                                               16:00

COMMENTS-
 1.BOM SFO   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 2                               
 2.BOM SFO   - ARRIVES TERMINAL I                               
 3.BOM SFO   - SECURED FLIGHT                                   
 4.BOM SFO   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                    
 5.BOM SFO   - F8C35Y195                                        

CONFIGURATION-
               77L  F   8   C  35   Y 195                       

>doai173/15dec
DOAI173/15DEC
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              AI 173   72 TH 15DEC22    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL  
DEL          0350  TH FACDJZYBMHK/M       77L        15:40      
                      QVWGLUTSP/M                               
SFO 0600  TH                                               15:40

COMMENTS-
 1.DEL SFO   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 3                               
 2.DEL SFO   - ARRIVES TERMINAL I                               
 3.DEL SFO   -   9/ NON-SMOKING                                 
 4.DEL SFO   - SECURED FLIGHT                                   
 5.DEL SFO   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                    
 6.DEL SFO   - F8C35Y195                                        
 7.DEL SFO   -  CO2/PAX* 501.10 KG ECO, 1,002.20 KG PRE         
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                    

CONFIGURATION-
               77L  F   8   C  35   Y 195                       

>doai175/2dec
DOAI175/2DEC                                                                    
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              AI 175   59 FR 02DEC22                    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                  
BLR          1420  FR FACDJZYBMHK/M       77L        16:10                      
                      QVWGLUTSP/M                                               
SFO 1700  FR                                               16:10                
                                                                                
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.BLR SFO   - ARRIVES TERMINAL I                                               
 2.BLR SFO   - SECURED FLIGHT                                                   
 3.BLR SFO   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                    
 4.BLR SFO   - F8C35Y195                                                        
 5.BLR SFO   -  CO2/PAX* 479.95 KG ECO, 959.90 KG PRE                           
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                                    
                                                                                
CONFIGURATION-                                                                  
               77L  F   8   C  35   Y 195
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Old Oct 5, 2022, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by galaticos
I'm sure it will be a WHILE before the UA SFO-BLR-SFO starts due to Russia restrictions.. I have a feeling UA might just give up and do codeshare with AI
I'm sure they will not do a code share with AI no matter what. They've had 10 years to do a code share with AI and haven't...
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Old Oct 22, 2022, 11:54 am
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Existing B77L & B77W LOPAs
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Old Nov 18, 2022, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by Anish
Any updates on where the Delta birds are going? Lifemiles has a bunch of AI award availability for next summer to the US at the moment!
also when are they showing up and when are the old 777s going away?
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Old Nov 22, 2022, 1:34 am
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Now they are looking for 100 B777 pilots and can't find any in India...

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/95667445.cms
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