Dec 21, 2023, 2:51 am
Last edit by: Anish
Seat configs and tail numbers for the new aircraft joining 2023 onwards -
B777-200LR (Ex-Delta) - VT-AEE/F/G/H/I
C28 W48 Y212 (Delta One Suite) - Seatmap
Routes - BOM-SFO, BLR-SFO, DEL-SFO (Might be swapped with AI 77L)
B777-300ER (Ex-Etihad) - VT-AEQ/R/M/N/O/P
F8 C40 Y280 - Seatmap
Routes - BOM-EWR, BOM-JFK, BOM-LHR, DEL-LHR
B777-300ER (Ex-Singapore Airlines) - VT-?
F4 C48 W28 Y184 - Seatmap
A350-900 - VT-JRA/B/E/F/H/I
C28 W24 Y264 (Aeroflot interiors with suites in Business) - Seatmap
B777-200LR (Ex-Delta) - VT-AEE/F/G/H/I
C28 W48 Y212 (Delta One Suite) - Seatmap
Routes - BOM-SFO, BLR-SFO, DEL-SFO (Might be swapped with AI 77L)
B777-300ER (Ex-Etihad) - VT-AEQ/R/M/N/O/P
F8 C40 Y280 - Seatmap
Routes - BOM-EWR, BOM-JFK, BOM-LHR, DEL-LHR
B777-300ER (Ex-Singapore Airlines) - VT-?
F4 C48 W28 Y184 - Seatmap
A350-900 - VT-JRA/B/E/F/H/I
C28 W24 Y264 (Aeroflot interiors with suites in Business) - Seatmap
AI B777 Fleet adjustments (Refurb B77W, Retire B77L, Lease B77E)
Sep 25, 2022, 12:24 pm
#46
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Are they going to run the DL planes on DEL-SFO or on new routes? Asking because DEL-SFO, which is a money printer given no competition, still has the old angled flat seats in business and you would think you could get higher yields with better seats in business and a premium economy section!
They also don't seem to have loaded the BLR-SFO flight even though a bunch of news articles suggest it is coming back at the end of October.
They also don't seem to have loaded the BLR-SFO flight even though a bunch of news articles suggest it is coming back at the end of October.
Sep 26, 2022, 2:33 am
#48
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Ah, got it. But unclear if they are selling them before they get the new ones, right?
And do the 77Ws not have the range for SFO? I thought AI used to fly them to SFO but could be mis-remembering.
I guess on the plus side, all AI flights to the US will now have lie-flat business instead of the crappy angled flat product on their 77Ls?
And do the 77Ws not have the range for SFO? I thought AI used to fly them to SFO but could be mis-remembering.
I guess on the plus side, all AI flights to the US will now have lie-flat business instead of the crappy angled flat product on their 77Ls?
Sep 26, 2022, 3:35 am
#49
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AFAIR the B77W can't do SFO. All B77L have the crappy avio interiors angled flat. A few B77W have the same seat as the B787 (Zodiac Lie Flat) but most of the the same angled flat of the B77L: Air India Longhaul B77W B77L B787 Seats
Sep 26, 2022, 10:47 am
#50
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AFAIR the B77W can't do SFO. All B77L have the crappy avio interiors angled flat. A few B77W have the same seat as the B787 (Zodiac Lie Flat) but most of the the same angled flat of the B77L: Air India Longhaul B77W B77L B787 Seats
Sep 27, 2022, 1:48 pm
#51
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AFAIR the B77W can't do SFO. All B77L have the crappy avio interiors angled flat. A few B77W have the same seat as the B787 (Zodiac Lie Flat) but most of the the same angled flat of the B77L: Air India Longhaul B77W B77L B787 Seats
IMO AI should deploy the ex-Delta 777s on DEL-JFK/EWR/ORD where is there is competition from AA/UA. For other routes like BOM-EWR/SFO, DEL-IAD/SFO etc having the old planes should be fine since AI has a monopoly.
Sep 27, 2022, 3:05 pm
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B77L have significantly less capacity than B77W. If they used the latter to SFO it was with a weight penalty.
Sep 27, 2022, 3:13 pm
#53
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AI applies a weight penalty on BOM-EWR during the winter months when flying time exceeds 16+ hours.
And for the past few days, AI has indeed been using the 77W on DEL-SFO: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ai173
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ai191
Sep 30, 2022, 7:19 am
#54
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The first B77L (N706DN) is on its way to SIN : https://www.flightradar24.com/N706DN/2daa032c
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Oct 4, 2022, 5:46 am
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BOM-SFO flight are now bookable online and BLR-SFO as well. Will these have the new B77Ls? Google Flights shows an angled lie-flat seat.
Oct 4, 2022, 6:34 am
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All flights have been filed with the usual AI B77L. But F is not on sale for the new flights, so maybe they will switch to the new equiment once its confirmed to be ready:
Code:
doai179/15dec
DOAI179/15DEC
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* AI 179 72 TH 15DEC22
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
BOM 1430 TH FACDJZYBMHK/- 77L 16:00
QVWGLUTSP/-
SFO 1700 TH 16:00
COMMENTS-
1.BOM SFO - DEPARTS TERMINAL 2
2.BOM SFO - ARRIVES TERMINAL I
3.BOM SFO - SECURED FLIGHT
4.BOM SFO - ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
5.BOM SFO - F8C35Y195
CONFIGURATION-
77L F 8 C 35 Y 195
>doai173/15dec
DOAI173/15DEC
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* AI 173 72 TH 15DEC22
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
DEL 0350 TH FACDJZYBMHK/M 77L 15:40
QVWGLUTSP/M
SFO 0600 TH 15:40
COMMENTS-
1.DEL SFO - DEPARTS TERMINAL 3
2.DEL SFO - ARRIVES TERMINAL I
3.DEL SFO - 9/ NON-SMOKING
4.DEL SFO - SECURED FLIGHT
5.DEL SFO - ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
6.DEL SFO - F8C35Y195
7.DEL SFO - CO2/PAX* 501.10 KG ECO, 1,002.20 KG PRE
(*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR
CONFIGURATION-
77L F 8 C 35 Y 195
>doai175/2dec
DOAI175/2DEC
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* AI 175 59 FR 02DEC22
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
BLR 1420 FR FACDJZYBMHK/M 77L 16:10
QVWGLUTSP/M
SFO 1700 FR 16:10
COMMENTS-
1.BLR SFO - ARRIVES TERMINAL I
2.BLR SFO - SECURED FLIGHT
3.BLR SFO - ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
4.BLR SFO - F8C35Y195
5.BLR SFO - CO2/PAX* 479.95 KG ECO, 959.90 KG PRE
(*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR
CONFIGURATION-
77L F 8 C 35 Y 195
Oct 5, 2022, 11:54 am
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I'm sure they will not do a code share with AI no matter what. They've had 10 years to do a code share with AI and haven't...
Nov 22, 2022, 1:34 am
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Now they are looking for 100 B777 pilots and can't find any in India...
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/95667445.cms
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/95667445.cms