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aranjit Sep 14, 2018 8:03 am

Best FF program for US to India
 
I will be mainly traveling from either ORD or JFK/EWR to India. I was looking at doing some personal trips to FRA. I expect to fly to India 2x a year in Y and was looking at what the best airline frequent flyer was. I will mainly be flying Y.

What would get low fuel surcharges for award flights to FRA or India?

thanks

Keyser Sep 15, 2018 2:51 am

are you a member of any airline frequent flyer program????

what other travel are you expecting besides the trips to fra & india????

PiperAtGatesofDawn Sep 15, 2018 5:01 am

2 trips to India in a year in Y will take you around 2+ years to score a oneway US/India ticket unless you’re buying very expensive Y tickets. FRA oneway will probably be possible in ~1.5 years.

So you should look at a credit card strategy to supplement your miles.

ORD/EWR are UA hubs and FRA is LHs hub. So it probably makes a little more sense to stick to *A and credit your miles to UA’s MP.

All the major US carriers have 0 YQ on their own and most of their partner flights (BA miles tickets on AA are a noteable exception). They only have a $5-6 security fee.

aranjit Sep 15, 2018 9:19 am

I have BA with 10k points left. I also have Jet with 14k miles. There is an old Air India account that i am trying to revive. I just signed up with Asiana because they give 2 years to get *A gold status so I was thinking that might be worthwhile.

Mainly that is the travel I am expecting. I may end up taking a few trips in the US but it won’t be regular.


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 30205739)
are you a member of any airline frequent flyer program????

what other travel are you expecting besides the trips to fra & india????


Keyser Sep 15, 2018 10:03 am


Originally Posted by aranjit (Post 30206520)
I have BA with 10k points left. I also have Jet with 14k miles. There is an old Air India account that i am trying to revive. I just signed up with Asiana because they give 2 years to get *A gold status so I was thinking that might be worthwhile.

Mainly that is the travel I am expecting. I may end up taking a few trips in the US but it won’t be regular.

no point crediting to a program in india if you will be taking more trips in the u.s. along with your expected travel....united would be your best bet....

aranjit Sep 15, 2018 10:20 am

Yes I was thinking to get a credit card to earn more/most of my miles. I didn’t realize UA had 0 YQ on LH. Thanks for mentioning that. I was thinking to credit to Asiana as they allow 2 years to get *A gold status and maybe get some free upgrades/lounge access. Then If I get *A gold I can credit to United until I have to requalify for Asiana. From what I can see Asiana doesn’t have fuel surcharge for United. So maybe I can just use Asiana and book a United award ticket to FRA?

Awardhacker lists Ewr to Del as 85k round trip in Y. I assume you mean J is one way?


Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn (Post 30205930)
2 trips to India in a year in Y will take you around 2+ years to score a oneway US/India ticket unless you’re buying very expensive Y tickets. FRA oneway will probably be possible in ~1.5 years.

So you should look at a credit card strategy to supplement your miles.

ORD/EWR are UA hubs and FRA is LHs hub. So it probably makes a little more sense to stick to *A and credit your miles to UA’s MP.

All the major US carriers have 0 YQ on their own and most of their partner flights (BA miles tickets on AA are a noteable exception). They only have a $5-6 security fee.


PiperAtGatesofDawn Sep 15, 2018 12:59 pm

You also have to see earning rates not just burning rates. Given your travel frequency you’re not going to be earning too many miles.

Check OZ & UA’s earning and burning charts for UA/LH/AI/SQ - the potential flights you can take between USA-FRA and USA-IND.

Also BA & 9W have the worst YQs. And 9W and AI have the worst redemption miles requirements. So go with UA unless you find OZ’s earning charts to be better.

PiperAtGatesofDawn Sep 15, 2018 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by aranjit (Post 30206705)
Awardhacker lists Ewr to Del as 85k round trip in Y. I assume you mean J is one way?

No I meant in Y. How many miles do yo think you’ll earn per trip?

Keyser Sep 15, 2018 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn (Post 30207149)
Also BA & 9W have the worst YQs.

9w has very little yq....

PiperAtGatesofDawn Sep 15, 2018 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 30207223)
9w has very little yq....

How much is YQ on a US-IND trip?

aranjit Sep 15, 2018 10:32 pm

Wow on looking at UA earning rates if you book directly with them you will earn at 5x the ticket price. A $1k ticket would only get 5k miles! Also looking at the number of economy tiers it looks pretty sad for LH on UA.

Full Fare Economy
Y, B
150%
Economy
M, H, U
100%
Discount Economy
Q, V, W
75%
Deep Discount Economy
S, T, L
50%
Deepest Discount Economy
K
25%
No Mileage Credit
I, O, R, X
0%
Deepest discount economy really? I was expecting to get 16k miles or so for each trip, but that’s assuming 100% earning which I guess is unlikely. UA earns 100% on OZ so I guess OZ seems reasonable to credit miles to.


Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn (Post 30207149)
You also have to see earning rates not just burning rates. Given your travel frequency you’re not going to be earning too many miles.

Check OZ & UA’s earning and burning charts for UA/LH/AI/SQ - the potential flights you can take between USA-FRA and USA-IND.

Also BA & 9W have the worst YQs. And 9W and AI have the worst redemption miles requirements. So go with UA unless you find OZ’s earning charts to be better.


PiperAtGatesofDawn Sep 15, 2018 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by aranjit (Post 30208393)
Wow on looking at UA earning rates if you book directly with them you will earn at 5x the ticket price. A $1k ticket would only get 5k miles! Also looking at the number of economy tiers it looks pretty sad for LH on UA.

It will be less 5k because the $1k ticket will include fees and taxes on which you don't earn miles. LH has a horrible program don't bother with them.


Originally Posted by aranjit (Post 30208393)
UA earns 100% on OZ so I guess OZ seems reasonable to credit miles to.

Look at OZ's burn rates. Also look at AV. They have a pretty good earn rate for UA and a 40k threshold for reaching *G. Keep a couple a few things in mind...
1. Earn and burn rates and redemption availability is important
2. Make sure that wherever you're crediting you will be able to credit reward points too, or have a card that can outright buy tickets on the card's RP

Keyser Sep 15, 2018 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn (Post 30207298)
How much is YQ on a US-IND trip?

the only destination 9w flies to in north america is yyz....they only charge around inr 5k for this route....haven't used jp miles to fly to the u.s. in almost a decade so i have no clue how much they would charge since one or more segments would be on either klm/delta/air france....even to other routes to europe & asia, they charge very little yq....

PiperAtGatesofDawn Sep 16, 2018 1:55 am

Another FTer had posted recently they were charged 140ish miles + around 35k INR for a one-way J flight to Cancun. I think the flight EU-NA leg was on KLM or AF.

Wouldn’t other destinations in NA have similar YQ?

Keyser Sep 16, 2018 4:02 am


Originally Posted by PiperAtGatesofDawn (Post 30208692)
Another FTer had posted recently they were charged 140ish miles + around 35k INR for a one-way J flight to Cancun. I think the flight EU-NA leg was on KLM or AF.

Wouldn’t other destinations in NA have similar YQ?

no clue....i know 9w doesn't charge yq on its own routes....no clue whether they charge on partner flights....


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