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rsh913 Sep 20, 15 7:17 pm

AI nonstop BLR / DEL- SFO
 
Well this is after all times of india. Unless its a news article relating to some innuendo crap its rarely makes the news. But this caught my eye in my news feed.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/49038356.cms

From what I know they only have 3 of the 200LR's left. rest were sold to Etihad. AI does have a new MD but I doubt if this would make economic sense....

ashishp Sep 21, 15 12:35 am

Just another Jumla (PR spin-doctoring not based on reality)!

This one is to coincide with Dear Leader's upcoming visit to SFO!

Never gonna happen! Even if it is launched(unlikely), dont see it sustaining past 3 months! Until the next foreign trip!

deovrat Sep 21, 15 1:42 am

EK did years of studies about the financials of DXB-PTY route before eventually launching.
I'm skeptical that anyone within AI has done the same and then approved the route.

oliver2002 Sep 21, 15 6:41 am

The two 77L left in the AI fleet (VT-ALF and ALH) are indeed twiddling thumbs flying 2-3h missions, probably as check/training flights for 777 pilots to keep their licences. Really sad. VT-ALG has been stored since ages, its probably waiting to be sold.

That said I really doubt SFO would make sense. More here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india...op-flight.html :D

avcritic Sep 22, 15 11:53 am


Originally Posted by deovrat (Post 25455594)
EK did years of studies about the financials of DXB-PTY route before eventually launching.

There is probably a large group of aviation analysts from USA who disagree with your statement/assertion.

UA Fan Sep 22, 15 8:03 pm

This would make the longest flight.

ashishp Sep 22, 15 9:03 pm

Airlines usually start marketing and load their reservation systems months in advance - minimum 4 months atleast! AI has not done this for SFO! Yet the route was announced!

Dear Leader is leaving for SFO on another foreign junket today and needs grandiose announcements to make! This is one of those!

Just like the $3 billion arms deals "approved in principle" - also something that is never going to happen! :)

Keyser Sep 25, 15 4:35 am

just got back from sfo this morning....a non-stop to india would have been great but i agree with others, its not likely to happen....just seems like another pr stunt....

oliver2002 Sep 25, 15 4:47 am

Well... the Chinese just did a similar tour of the US and announced a big aircraft order, a boeing completion line in China etc... I can very well imagine that Modi will announce grand plans for a west coast AI flight at the Arena in SJC this Sunday. Wether its pragmatic or makes commerical sense is on another page. :p This is AI and Indian politics after all.:D

malgudi Sep 25, 15 11:22 pm

Indeed ... bling over substance! :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by ashishp (Post 25465093)
Dear Leader is leaving for SFO on another foreign junket today and needs grandiose announcements to make! This is one of those! Just like the $3 billion arms deals "approved in principle" - also something that is never going to happen! :)

Wow ... turns out I started that thread :)


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 25456239)

That said I really doubt SFO would make sense. More here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india...op-flight.html :D


deovrat Sep 27, 15 3:42 am

AI announces Longest Flight in the world! Non-stop BLR-SFO !
 
Well, I'll be damned !

This just in:

AI CMD Mr. Lohani announces flt to San Francisco from Bangalore.
Flight will be 16 hrs non stop & 3 times a week.

This flight will take over the mantle of being the longest in the world (8701 miles) from QF's SYD-DFW (8578 miles) and EK's yet to start DXB-PTY (85788 miles) route.
More details to be announced soon as to the starting date and so on, but I think we can all agree on the choice of aircraft.
Only one can do this haul: 777-200LR.
Good to see those birds stretching their legs after lying idle.

I really, really, really hope that AI has done proper homework for this and will make this work.

https://twitter.com/airindiain/statu...51149904347136


Update: AI revises its own statement and announces DEL to SFO non-stop flight with connections from elsewhere into DEL. Starts Dec 2, 2015.

https://twitter.com/airindiain/statu...13086033858560

bharathitman Sep 27, 15 5:29 am

Economy passengers will have lot of fun :D

kshastry Sep 27, 15 7:18 am

While I don't want to sound negative, such announcements made in excited situations for emotional reasons won't last long.

BLR, though a tech city, may not have traffic and cargo to sustain such route profitably. If they had done BLR-NYC, and found a good partner in that hub (UA?) for further connections, it could have been sustained perhaps.

Not long ago, AI did BOM-LAX with one stop and burnt its finger.

deovrat Sep 27, 15 7:30 am


Originally Posted by kshastry (Post 25484245)
While I don't want to sound negative, such announcements made in excited situations for emotional reasons won't last long.

BLR, though a tech city, may not have traffic and cargo to sustain such route profitably. If they had done BLR-NYC, and found a good partner in that hub (UA?) for further connections, it could have been sustained perhaps.

Not long ago, AI did BOM-LAX with one stop and burnt its finger.

I think most of us on this forum feel along the same lines.

I'd have thought even DEL-SFO would make more sense, with BLR-DEL a tag flight; on the lines of current AI 126 HYD-DEL-ORD.
DEL is undeniably a better hub, you have good presence, plus DEL originating traffic would help too. Pure O&D traffic from BLR who wants to pay top dollar for a non-stop wouldn't necessarily fill this flight with enough loads to sustain the route.

Well I guess its better than keeping those 77Ls idle, but can't help but feel this route won't see the success they envision this to be.
This was purely a "See how we made AI a World Class airline by introducing a longest flight" kinda political announcement.

Update: Its indeed a DEL-SFO flight after all ! AI just revised its statement.
I should buy a lottery ticket today ! :D

rsh913 Sep 27, 15 9:51 am

AI nonstop BLR / DEL- SFO
 
Well it seems they announced a VIDP KSFO 3x weekly on their remaining 200LR s.


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