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rsh913 Sep 19, 13 6:19 am

Tata Sons & SQ to launch India based airline [Vistara][merged]
 
Wsj is reporting a Jv with 49% sq ownership.

bpbindaas Sep 19, 13 6:24 am

Tatas and SIA in JV for full service airlines in India??
 
Read this article on Reuters on a possible JV between Tatas and SIA for a full service airlines in India.
^^^^^^^^
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/sin...110443766.html

Interesting? This is good news. I was disappointed with Air Asia India's 'focus south' policy. This will be much needed competition to 9W, IF it happens!

oliver2002 Sep 19, 13 6:36 am

Oh dear, full service in India... no chance of survival...

jasepl Sep 19, 13 6:55 am

What on earth?

If true, and if it does happen, then Fibga and Taxpayer beware.

Oh and what's the chance of them flying the plane from BOM to DEL as TataAirAsia and then bringing it back as TataSQ (ceteris paribus, except the fare) ?

rsh913 Sep 19, 13 7:58 am

It is a 100MM$ investment for now. Not a whole of money to launch an airline... perhaps a few leased jets at best....

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/3U...t-new-air.html

Keyser Sep 20, 13 2:02 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 21469888)
Oh dear, full service in India... no chance of survival...

unfortunately this is true....:(

oliver2002 Sep 20, 13 8:38 am

I love how 'experts' deconstruct themselves within a few sentences:


“I don’t understand the logic of working with two airlines simultaneously,” said aerospace journalist Hormuz P. Mama. “It seems peculiar to work with AirAsia and Singapore Airlines as both will compete each other irrespective of low-fare and full-service business models.”
But Mama said India does need a large airline to compete with big international airlines such as Emirates and Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

Consulting firm Capa Centre for Aviation, too, said India needs strong, well-capitalized airlines run by companies with proven credentials.
“Tata-Singapore Airlines venture was long overdue, should have started 15 years back. Capa believes approval of foreign airlines to invest in India was a game-changing decision,” Kapil Kaul, chief executive officer (South Asia) at Capa, said. He cautioned that regulatory and policy uncertainty still dog the aviation sector.
“We have no clarity on the issue of new airline licences. Overall, government policies have always raised entry risks for serious players,” Kaul said. “We operate in a policy and regulatory vacuum. However, Tatas may have discussed this project at the highest levels in the government.”

oliver2002 Sep 23, 13 6:42 am

Reuters had a more detailled story today: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98L02A20130922

UA Fan Sep 25, 13 12:28 am

So the Tatas will finally come back into the Indian skies.

But the more important question - which alliance will it join? :)

bpbindaas Sep 25, 13 1:37 am


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 21500509)
So the Tatas will finally come back into the Indian skies.

But the more important question - which alliance will it join? :)

that shouldnt be hard to predict! *A! SIA being one of the promoters of the airline as and when it comes

SuperFlyBoy Sep 25, 13 2:27 am


Originally Posted by bpbindaas (Post 21500726)
that shouldnt be hard to predict! *A! SIA being one of the promoters of the airline as and when it comes

Yup.

And now one of AI's top management has gone on record (moneycontrol.com), saying that AI should be handed back to the Tatas!

Ha ha - like anyone would want to touch AI now?

Better the government keep all the liabilities and hand over only the slots/name over to Tata - that's the only thing that would work...


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 21500509)
So the Tatas will finally come back into the Indian skies.

But the more important question - which alliance will it join? :)


UA Fan Sep 25, 13 9:35 am


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 21500867)
Yup.

And now one of AI's top management has gone on record (moneycontrol.com), saying that AI should be handed back to the Tatas!

Ha ha - like anyone would want to touch AI now?

Better the government keep all the liabilities and hand over only the slots/name over to Tata - that's the only thing that would work...

I think GoI should give back AI minus liabilities to Tata and let SQ invest 49% in it.

UA Fan Sep 25, 13 9:35 am

Is there scope for another full service airline in India?

hserus Sep 26, 13 12:45 am

minus liabilities = just the planes, routes / fifth freedom rights etc. and the commanders - still the most experienced anywhere in the industry. auntyji FAs, desk staffers etc etc .. forget them all.

oliver2002 Sep 26, 13 1:32 am

Nice idea: like the bad bank/GM concept: park all the undesirable stuff in a empty shell without purpose and privatise the rest. Ähh... keep dreaming.


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