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fqtv_kraven Jan 13, 2012 3:29 am

9W Baggage Interlining
 
Does anybody know if Jet Airways has a baggage interlining agreement with Sri Lankan and Thai Airways? I got a 9W BRU-BOM and a UL BOM-CMB a few hours later and on the return a TG BKK-BOM/9W BOM-BRU and it would be easier not to immigrate into India to collect my luggage :)

hserus Jan 13, 2012 3:57 am

If they are on the same ticket - yes. If not - well, the agent could tag them on but you'd be in for some fun if your bags didnt reach you.

A2A Jan 13, 2012 5:31 am

both are interlining partners of 9w, so I'd assume no problem!

fqtv_kraven Jan 13, 2012 5:35 am

Fine, thanks for that information.
Got enough time for connecting in BOM and I'm hoping my luggage will get through :)

Keyser Jan 13, 2012 8:40 am


Originally Posted by fqtv_kraven (Post 17805917)
Got enough time for connecting in BOM and I'm hoping my luggage will get through :)

how much time????

snod08 Jan 13, 2012 9:25 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 17806773)
how much time????

seems like the UL flight leaves around 3:50AM and the OP will land around 11PM the previous night? ...(if I understand the schedule correctly).

Keyser Jan 13, 2012 10:52 am


Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 17807056)
seems like the UL flight leaves around 3:50AM and the OP will land around 11PM the previous night? ...(if I understand the schedule correctly).

more than enough time then....

fqtv_kraven Jan 13, 2012 11:33 am

Yeah, 22:00 to 03:20 from 9W to UL and 22:00 to 02:10 on the return journey from TG to 9W.
All flights are on different tickets.

snod08 Jan 13, 2012 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by fqtv_kraven (Post 17807875)
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All flights are on different tickets.

Thats not very desirable...
Make sure you carry the details of all the tickets (PNR, eticket number, etc).
So the interlining can be done. You are somewhat at the mercy of the originating airline....however, most of the time, airlines do agree to interline bags as long as they have an agreement with the next carrier.

CCU_Flyer Apr 28, 2012 6:05 am

9W Baggage Interlining
 
Hi I am new to interlining and am not sure how the same works. I am planning a holiday with friends to Bangkok and we plan to spend a week at the beach maybe Krabi or Koh Samui, although jetairways website shows Bangkok airways and Thai airways as interlining and Eticket partners I can't seem to find the destinations while booking am I missing something or am I supposed to buy two different tickets in different airlines assuming they would tag the baggage to the end destination.

Any help is appreciated.

Yaatri Apr 28, 2012 9:03 am

As I understand, there are bilateral interline agreements and mult-lateral interline agreements, which are entirely different from code-share agreements.
Any airline that's a signatory to MITA will/should interline with anyother airline that's also a signatory to MITA. An airline does not have to sign agreements with every airline it wishes to interline with. Signing on to MITA automatically results in interlining agreement with all MITA signatories.

Strictly speaking, if you have separate tickets, MITA does not apply, unless the two tickets have been conjuncted.

I would like to hear from those with more knowledge of rules than I have.

Anish Apr 28, 2012 10:43 pm

Quick question.. I'm flying PEK-HKG-BOM-GOI next week.

PEK-HKG is on CX and HKG-BOM-GOI on 9W. Will my bags go through from PEK to GOI or will I need to re-check them in at HKG.

I'm a 9W Plat and all segments are in J.

Mr. Bean Apr 28, 2012 11:19 pm


Originally Posted by Anish (Post 18478857)
Quick question.. I'm flying PEK-HKG-BOM-GOI next week.

PEK-HKG is on CX and HKG-BOM-GOI on 9W. Will my bags go through from PEK to GOI or will I need to re-check them in at HKG.

I'm a 9W Plat and all segments are in J.

If same itinerary, no problem, bags checked thru to BOM. If on different itineraries, give your 9W itin to the CX agent at PEK and they should be able to interline them no problem.

Anish Apr 28, 2012 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by Mr. Bean (Post 18478942)
If same itinerary, no problem, bags checked thru to BOM. If on different itineraries, give your 9W itin to the CX agent at PEK and they should be able to interline them no problem.

Same itinerary.. Thanks for the confirmation :)

phillystudent Apr 30, 2012 8:20 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 18475915)
As I understand, there are bilateral interline agreements and mult-lateral interline agreements, which are entirely different from code-share agreements.
Any airline that's a signatory to MITA will/should interline with anyother airline that's also a signatory to MITA. An airline does not have to sign agreements with every airline it wishes to interline with. Signing on to MITA automatically results in interlining agreement with all MITA signatories.

Strictly speaking, if you have separate tickets, MITA does not apply, unless the two tickets have been conjuncted.

I would like to hear from those with more knowledge of rules than I have.

That's a perfect summary of MITA and the provisions. I have a copy of the manual, but unfortunately am not allowed to paste the section because of legal reasons (it's a purchase-restricted document). Either way, joining the agreement links the airline in question to the other 350 members of the group. Furthermore, the tickets do need to be the same in order for the automatic procedures to kick in.

Yaatri Apr 30, 2012 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by phillystudent (Post 18485212)
That's a perfect summary of MITA and the provisions. I have a copy of the manual, but unfortunately am not allowed to paste the section because of legal reasons (it's a purchase-restricted document). Either way, joining the agreement links the airline in question to the other 350 members of the group. Furthermore, the tickets do need to be the same in order for the automatic procedures to kick in.

Thanks. Is there a list of MITA signatories? Yes, the manual does cost a handsome amount.
Does an airline have to be in IATA member to be an MITA signatory?
Also, LCC's do not. interline.
Some airlines will still check your bags through even if you have two separate tickets. That's a courtesy, not a right.

Sometimes XXX-YYY and YYY-ZZZ (involving two different airlines) when bought separately is cheaper than buying XXX-YYY-ZZZ on a single itinerary. That happens because of combinability of the two fares and due to place of purchase. YYY-ZZZ fare when purchased in the country where YYY is located would different from YYY-ZZZ fare when bought in the country where XXX is located. Some people think they are being gipped, but it['s not so.

PVDtoDEL Apr 30, 2012 7:24 pm

I had a copy of the document on my old computer (somebody had uploaded it onto a shell site), but I don't have that computer any more nor do I have the link...

The whole doc is up there somewhere...


Also, some LCCs do interline, just not in India. For example, JetBlue has been signing interline agreements at a very rapid pace. Not only interlines actually, but also codeshares. If some Indian LCC decided that it is worth the additional cost to be able to feed foreign carriers, then they might sign interlines. IATA membership is unlikely for an LCC of course.

Yaatri Apr 30, 2012 9:15 pm


Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 18489099)
I had a copy of the document on my old computer (somebody had uploaded it onto a shell site), but I don't have that computer any more nor do I have the link...

The whole doc is up there somewhere...


Also, some LCCs do interline, just not in India. For example, JetBlue has been signing interline agreements at a very rapid pace. Not only interlines actually, but also codeshares. If some Indian LCC decided that it is worth the additional cost to be able to feed foreign carriers, then they might sign interlines. IATA membership is unlikely for an LCC of course.

I was thinking of LCC's like Air Asia. What I meant to say was that most LCC's are not MITA signatories. However, airlines can i terline without being signatories to MITA.
LCC's in the U.S. would not be able to get on without interlining.
There is no re ason why an LCC cannot be an IATA member. Jetblue is an IATA member.

PVDtoDEL Apr 30, 2012 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 18489587)
I was thinking of LCC's like Air Asia. What I meant to say was that most LCC's are not MITA signatories. However, airlines can i terline without being signatories to MITA.
LCC's in the U.S. would not be able to get on without interlining.
There is no re ason why an LCC cannot be an IATA member. Jetblue is an IATA member.

Even ULCCs like Air Asia consider interlining - with the recent cross ownership deal with Malaysia Airlines, there will be a very close interlining/codesharing agreement between AirAsia/AirAsia X/Malaysia Airlines pretty soon...

Airlines can of course intelrine without being MITA signatories.

In the US, Southwest does not interline. They can't even interline with their fully owned subsidiary, AirTran. Really quite a sad state of affairs for them.

As for LCCs not being IATA members, it is because the costs of becoming a full member are high for a true LCC. While many airlines avail of some functions of IATA (which is how they can claim that they "represent" 84% of the airlines in the world), the number of full IATA members are much less. JetBlue is not a full IATA member according to the most recent copy of the IATA coding directory that I could get my hands on (2008).

Edit: It looks like JetBlue joined IATA as a full member in 2010.

phillystudent May 1, 2012 6:29 am

I started hunting for it online just because I wanted to see if I could find it, but no luck as of yet. :( Either way, docstoc has some interesting IATA documents in case anyone wants to read about provisions; pm me if you want the link. Also, the below thread at airliners.net was kind of interesting to read:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/4122596/

Also, while this is not a formal publication (to my knowledge), check out the below document for a better general understanding:

http://ec.europa.eu/competition/anti...n_paper_en.pdf

CCU_Flyer May 3, 2012 1:04 pm

9W Baggage Interlining
 
Right I called up my ta and he said that even if jet has an interline agreement it would not work as I need to add through immigration at bkk itself although I believe koh samui is an international airport. So now would need to take a later flight to ensure connection at bkk. :(

Mr. Bean May 3, 2012 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by ashwini (Post 18508488)
Right I called up my ta and he said that even if jet has an interline agreement it would not work as I need to add through immigration at bkk itself although I believe koh samui is an international airport. So now would need to take a later flight to ensure connection at bkk. :(

????????

Yes you would have to go through immigration for transit at BKK, but you would not need to collect your bags for this. Perhaps your layover was simply below the Minimum Connection Time for this connection.

gshewakr May 17, 2012 2:35 am

9W to PG interline (different tickets & pnrs) in BKK
 
Hello

Does anyone have any experience with 9W check in staff in BOM when it comes to interlining bags with PG (bangkok airways).

I fly BOM-BKK tomorrow on the 740am jet airways flight, arriving at 130pm
I connect to BKK-USM on the 3:30pm PG flight.

I know 9W and PG have an interline agreement. The jet website says that they will through check the bags if the two reservations are on the same ticket... however, technically speaking I know nothing stops them from through checking me in regardless.

Has anyone does this before?


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