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naroowal Jun 13, 2011 8:11 pm

Award availability on IT using DL skymiles
 
All,

I posted this in the delta forum but wanted to post it here to see how to find availability on a kingfisher flight using DL skymiles.

Is it possible to check it online - expertflyer had it but now does not show it any more.

Would opening a kingfisher account help?

I am looking for dates around 10/14 to go from LHR to BOM in biz and then return around 11/6 from BOM to LHR again in Biz.

- naroowal

Yaatri Jun 13, 2011 9:22 pm


Originally Posted by naroowal (Post 16555936)
All,

I posted this in the delta forum but wanted to post it here to see how to find availability on a kingfisher flight using DL skymiles.

Is it possible to check it online - expertflyer had it but now does not show it any more.

Would opening a kingfisher account help?

I am looking for dates around 10/14 to go from LHR to BOM in biz and then return around 11/6 from BOM to LHR again in Biz.

- naroowal

Having an IT account will do nothing to help you redeem DL miles. The inventory you see on IT's website is not necessarily what's made available to DL.

UA Fan Jun 14, 2011 9:14 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 16556262)
Having an IT account will do nothing to help you redeem DL miles. The inventory you see on IT's website is not necessarily what's made available to DL.

It would a guideline. In general i have noticed that when an airline releases a seat to its members, it will release to others as well. There are several exceptions (SQ?) where the airline wants to give its members more opportunities to redeem and so may allow awards to its members and not others.

At a minimum if an airline does not release seats to its members then it won't release seats to its partners. One strange exception is CX where I saw its members not being able to get a particular flight, but I was able to get it with AA miles.

UA Fan Jun 14, 2011 9:15 am

Slightly OT, in general how is IT availability with IT miles?

Yaatri Jun 14, 2011 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 16558729)
It would a guideline. In general i have noticed that when an airline releases a seat to its members, it will release to others as well. There are several exceptions (SQ?) where the airline wants to give its members more opportunities to redeem and so may allow awards to its members and not others.

At a minimum if an airline does not release seats to its members then it won't release seats to its partners. One strange exception is CX where I saw its members not being able to get a particular flight, but I was able to get it with AA miles.

Yes, it's a guideline. Even if every award seat that was available to IT ferquent flyers was available to DL, the seats could be gone, by the time it takes one to call Delta.
IT is twice removed from DL. Often the inventory is the best for an airline's own FF's, followed by the alliance and then other partners.

When CO was a NW partner, sometimes you could see seats on CO's website, but NW agents (Platinum line) could not see those seats in the inventory available to them, although you could go back and look at CO's site, the seats would still be available. If you have status with the airline, sometimes they would try a little harder, with mixed results.

UA Fan Jun 14, 2011 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 16559994)
IT is twice removed from DL.

What do you mean?

Yaatri Jun 14, 2011 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 16560059)
What do you mean?

I was talking about its relationship with DL. IT's relationship with OneWorld is closer than with DL. For IT, first priority is its own FF members, followed by those of OneWorld alliance partners, followed by non alliance partners and with every body esle at the end. Before IT joined OneWorld, you would come up with itineraries like DTW-LHR (NW) and LHR-DEL/BOM (IT) on NW website. I have not seen anything like that on Delta's website.

UA Fan Jun 14, 2011 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 16560154)
Before IT joined OneWorld, you would come up with itineraries like DTW-LHR (NW) and LHR-DEL/BOM (IT) on NW website. I have not seen anything like that on Delta's website.

I once considered this option, but the timing made it impossible, unless you spend a night in LHR. IT's LHR flight at one time was at an unusual hour.

Did you actually make such a trip?

avm2806 Jun 14, 2011 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 16558737)
Slightly OT, in general how is IT availability with IT miles?

Not Bad - a darn side better than 9W's for sure.

A2A Jun 14, 2011 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 16560154)
. Before IT joined OneWorld, you would come up with itineraries like DTW-LHR (NW) and LHR-DEL/BOM (IT) on NW website. I have not seen anything like that on Delta's website.

is IT already introducing some benefits for fliers from OW member airlines? because the entry to the alliance is still not done.

A2A Jun 14, 2011 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by avm2806 (Post 16560273)
Not Bad - a darn side better than 9W's for sure.

+1 ^

Yaatri Jun 14, 2011 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 16560471)
is IT already introducing some benefits for fliers from OW member airlines? because the entry to the alliance is still not done.

In that case, IT is once removed from DL. I am not up-to-date on when IT's alliance with OneWorld would be effective.

Keyser Jun 15, 2011 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 16558737)
Slightly OT, in general how is IT availability with IT miles?


Originally Posted by avm2806 (Post 16560273)
Not Bad - a darn side better than 9W's for sure.

i agree....i have found kingfisher to be extremely generous with award availability....this is the one area i would rank them a lot higher than jet....

UA Fan Jun 16, 2011 10:46 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 16569907)
i agree....i have found kingfisher to be extremely generous with award availability....this is the one area i would rank them a lot higher than jet....

I remember seeing very good availability when the nwa site was running, so it does not look like much has changed.

naroowal Jun 16, 2011 12:42 pm

I second Keyser
 

Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 16569907)
i agree....i have found kingfisher to be extremely generous with award availability....this is the one area i would rank them a lot higher than jet....

I am finding generally good availability up to 2 seats when calling Delta. So it is a shame that Kingfisher is going to OneWorld.

- naroowal


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