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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by hserus
Wonder if the role of an FT evangelist is to simply get into quarrels with other FTers on facts they have wrong in the first place.

Now now - no generalizations - our dear Keyser formerly known as Saad is an evangelist who usually has his ducks in a row and knows what he's talking about....

Originally Posted by hserus
I agree about 9W sticking to plan AND lobbying the authorities in BRU for easier transit - transit in BRU is far more onerous than it should be in such a tiny airport.
They have the muscle at BRU - and if they pick up the slots and expand with the real estate at BRU (they were going to take lots of free space on the upper level with a totally seperate F lounge, a full Spa/shower set up etc)...
They should be able to flex it and do something about the transits...

My biggest gripe about flying 9W today is the inability to get a half decent shower most of the time when transitting after an overnight flight... I hope they fix this soon and expand BRU as planned.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by avm2806
They have the muscle at BRU - and if they pick up the slots and expand with the real estate at BRU (they were going to take lots of free space on the upper level with a totally seperate F lounge, a full Spa/shower set up etc)...
They should be able to flex it and do something about the transits...

My biggest gripe about flying 9W today is the inability to get a half decent shower most of the time when transitting after an overnight flight... I hope they fix this soon and expand BRU as planned.
Totally agreed-LH has my money on this route...

First the buggers should show us that they are serious about putting the 77w on the US routes...however, note that I was told that 4 F seats on the A332 was being considered also-but a refit might take too long, given they are short of aircraft.

(They don't need more seats than this-if they want to let the F cabin go empty and not allow redemptions!! )

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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by avm2806

Now now - no generalizations - our dear Keyser formerly known as Saad is an evangelist who usually has his ducks in a row and knows what he's talking about....
hserus has indicated someone else.

Note there are 2 evangelists posting in the last 25 or so posts...
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
You are right that at this point, there is little chance of star alliance accepting 9W. The only way is if LH (SN owner) were convinced it was in their best interest (the above plan could make SN far more profitable). If LH wanted Jet to join Star and work closely with SN, it might happen.
Personally spoke to LH (the owner's) CEO (without realizing it) and he admitted Jet (biz/F) product was good. However, whether that meant that they would consider Jet to join would be another matter!

I can personally attest that if one were to get a pleasing FA (going above and beyond) on board Jet (most times you do not), you can deem Jet worthy of the top tier of carriers worldwide.

However, sleeping in the Jet biz hard product for only 1 hour was refreshing to say the least - even over sleeping 3-4 hours in the biz or First product of LH - What a difference it makes!!!
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 3:30 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
however, note that I was told that 4 F seats on the A332 was being considered also-but a refit might take too long, given they are short of aircraft.

(They don't need more seats than this-if they want to let the F cabin go empty and not allow redemptions!! )
I was told this a while ago as well by some ground supervisors and CC. The original plan was 332's for regional / medium haul (eg HK, SIN, DXB etc) and 77W's longhaul - which is why the 332's don't have crew rest areas.

However, someone high up at BOM HQ confirmed to me this was just a rumor and not true - the 330 is not wide enough to fit a 1-2-1 config of the suite, only a 1-1-1 (hence possible combo's in multiples of 3). One of the reasons the 77W doesn't do well is the weight of the 8 suites increases operating costs to fly the entire plane.

Don't think we gonna see first on 330's any time soon unless the come up with a different version of it.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 3:33 am
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Originally Posted by avm2806

Now now - no generalizations - our dear Keyser formerly known as Saad is an evangelist who usually has his ducks in a row and knows what he's talking about....
thanks for the faith....
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
hserus has indicated someone else.

Note there are 2 evangelists posting in the last 25 or so posts...
I knew that - and couldn't agree more (given that many of my posts were the ones being attacked with incorrect information)...
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy

However, sleeping in the Jet biz hard product for only 1 hour was refreshing to say the least - even over sleeping 3-4 hours in the biz or First product of LH - What a difference it makes!!!
Jets hard product might be good, but their soft product needs a lot to be desired (atleast for intl routes). For domestic, they are really good.

For intl flights, Jets food and service is not presented well, often hurried, and not what it was previously projected to be... They started like IT, but slowly moved closer to AI.
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Originally Posted by sleeplessinNL
Jets hard product might be good, but their soft product needs a lot to be desired (atleast for intl routes). For domestic, they are really good.

For intl flights, Jets food and service is not presented well, often hurried, and not what it was previously projected to be... They started like IT, but slowly moved closer to AI.
I am surprised with the feedback. On the various routes I have done with 9w Internationally [BOM-SIN,BOM-HKG,BOM-BRU,BOM-LHR, etc) I have found the product quality pretty consistent. Taken good care of! the AVOD is usually good, except sometimes when you've been around so often to have seen everything already! Whats missing is the lounge experience but then I make it a point to be just in time for my flights!
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Originally Posted by sleeplessinNL
For intl flights, Jets food and service is not presented well, often hurried, and not what it was previously projected to be... They started like IT, but slowly moved closer to AI.
i think jet does an excellent job of presenting food & service on their flights....so does ai....kingfisher has been pretty bad as of late....
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here are some food pics from a recent 9w flight to SIN


The Champagne

The meal

the dessert....

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Old May 4, 2011 | 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by Keyser
i think jet does an excellent job of presenting food & service on their flights....so does ai....kingfisher has been pretty bad as of late....
I agree on the IT comment - but AI? Have you flown biz on AI lately? take them to SIN and the meal is literally a premium economy tray thrown together - no wine, champagne nada - compare that to even AI domestic meal service and you'll find it apalling - same on their DXB flights...
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Old May 4, 2011 | 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by avm2806
I agree on the IT comment - but AI? Have you flown biz on AI lately? take them to SIN and the meal is literally a premium economy tray thrown together - no wine, champagne nada - compare that to even AI domestic meal service and you'll find it apalling - same on their DXB flights...
was on a dxb flight about 6 months ago & i found the meal service quite nice....have never flown to sin on ai so can't comment there....
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Originally Posted by Keyser
was on a dxb flight about 6 months ago & i found the meal service quite nice....have never flown to sin on ai so can't comment there....
was it widebody? or 320 family? single tray service?
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Originally Posted by avm2806
I agree on the IT comment - but AI? Have you flown biz on AI lately? take them to SIN and the meal is literally a premium economy tray thrown together - no wine, champagne nada - compare that to even AI domestic meal service and you'll find it apalling - same on their DXB flights...
Flew AI on MAA - SIN - MAA in Jan. I agree with you on the grub part.. The only thing that's good with their Biz product on that route is probably the larger seat & leg-room, extra baggage allowance and lounge access out of SIN on the return.

The IFE system is the pits..very very poor collection to choose from.
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