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Just recently realized after watching my brother being upgraded for free on the benefits of FFP :(

So i decided to enroll myself into one as well now , thankfully not too late ( only 24). I am debating between Jet/Kingfisher at the moment and was wondering if you guys can provide some feedback on it.

- I travel to UK and USA ( San Francisco and Austin ) - 6-7 times a year and only recently have started traveling on Biz Class.
- I am thinking of applying for one of the credit cards ( AMEX Kingfisher Gold / Citibank Plat ). Which one do you guys recommend if not both.
- Are these upgrade vouchers any good for international travel?

both have their own benefits but if you are travelling to the US then i would suggest you go with jet since kingfisher does not fly to the US....also, jet flies to far more international venues than kingfisher....

once you reach jet platinum they treat you like royalty....not sure how kingfisher plat works since they just introduced that last month....

you get 5 upgrade vouchers when you reach plat in both programs, but while you need to book a higher fare in economy to be eligible for an upgrade with kingfisher, jet allows their plats to have the cheapest revenue ticket & still be eligible for the upgrade....the vouchers are good for international travel as well....

the jet platinum credit card gets you an upgrade voucher when you sign up & then an upgrade voucher everytime you spend inr 200,000 ( or inr 100,000 on www.jetairways.com )....there is no limit to how many upgrade voucher you can get in a year....the kingfisher first amex gets you no upgrade voucher at signup & a free economy class ticket every time you spend inr 175,000 or a business class ticket after you spend inr 350,000 in a year....here you are capped at either 4 economy or 2 business class tickets a year....

all of the above reasons put together, jet has by far the superior program in my opinion....

Agree with saad. It'll be even better if you think you'll be booking your tickets online yourself, on your credit card. If yes, or at least have significant credit card spends, suggest you move over to Jet Airways Citibank Plat credit card. The annual fee of Rs 2k is a pittance, for the benefits...

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniruddh77 (Post 13484763)

with 6-7 business class trips to the us & uk, you will reach plat very easily....& when you reach plat then you won't even be charged the Rs. 2k annual fee....

Quote:

Originally Posted by saad (Post 13486128)

with 6-7 business class trips to the us & uk, you will reach plat very easily....& when you reach plat then you won't even be charged the Rs. 2k annual fee....

yep...

Thanks guys. Its very good to know. I was just checking my previous flights and I think I can make it 23,000 miles already if I just call Jet Airways and tell them about my past travel in 5 months.

Got another trip in 7 days which should get it to cross beyond 45k miles. I also saw on JP website that I can purchase miles for real cash. Usually airlines have a limit of miles you can purchase but Jet Doesnt seem to have any so does it mean i can just buy the rest 45k and get to Jet Plat tier?

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiffed (Post 13494190)

if you get to 45k miles within 6 months then you make it to plat through their fast track....

buying miles won't get you to plat....they don't count towards tier status....only flown miles do....

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiffed (Post 13494190)

Thanks guys. Its very good to know. I was just checking my previous flights and I think I can make it 23,000 miles already if I just call Jet Airways and tell them about my past travel in 5 months.

also, do you still have your boarding pass from all the flight you took in the last 5 months????if you don't then you will have to get travel certificates from the airline to prove that you flew with them....

I could be wrong about this, but am not sure you can go as far back as 5 months on claims with Jet, can you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by aniruddh77 (Post 13494383)

I could be wrong about this, but am not sure you can go as far back as 5 months on claims with Jet, can you?

you can go back 6 months if i'm not mistaken....

just realized I had 11000 pluspoints with Axis Bank platinum card which I never knew off , i can convert these to miles.

Taking a BOM - SFO - BOM route on Monday on Emirates ( sadly Jet doesnt offer this anymore )...should collect approx. 16000 miles or so from this.

Cant wait to be Jet Plat :)

Unfortunately EK metal flights (unless on a 9W code) will not count for tier status miles, but only towards your redeemable miles balance.

Got this off the Jet Airways website :

Qualifying Emirates (EK) flights mean all published regular scheduled flights which are:

* Operated and marketed by Emirates Airlines (excluding India to Dubai and v.v routes)
* Marketed by 9W but operated by Emirates Airlines under a codeshare agreement
* Marketed by EK but operated by Jet Airways under a codeshare agreement

What do you recommend other than this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiffed (Post 13495040)

Quote:

- Tier Points and Tier JPMiles are those earned on flights Jet Airways, Jet Airways Konnect, JetLite and Jet Airways codeshare flights. Also earn additional Tier Points for flights in First Class and Première on Jet Airways.

http://www.jetairways.com/doc/Benefi...inal160210.pdf

I still interpret this as partner metal flights only earn status miles when booked under the 9W codeshare flight number.

crap. How do I get to San francisco then :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiffed (Post 13495118)

crap. How do I get to San francisco then :)

9W metal will get you to the East Coast (JFK/EWR/YYZ). You'll have to find code share options for the transcon to SFO.

Surprisingly neither SFO or LAX is in the online list of codeshare destinations that they sell. Other US options are BOS, ORD, RDU (!!) etc. However, there are also a ton of Canadian destinations, and YVR would probably be geographically the closest you can get to SFO on a 9W codeshare (atleast among the online bookable ones.) This routes via LHR with LHR-YVR on AC metal on a 9W code. AC has an excellent longhaul J hard product, with the J seat virtually identical to the herringbone 9W seat, albeit slightly narrower at the shoulders I found.

No tickets available to LHR on my dates, shall I just park thesr miles on my skywards account then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 13495163)

I was just looking at BOM-SFO and CCU-SFO, which Jet has fares filed for these routes at 1.36 lakhs in biz, base.

(Sorry, had to edit, as I posted EWR destination fares first, as I was checking them too! :p)

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Code:

BOM  Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]

SFO  San Francisco Int'l CA US [KSFO]

TUE  30 Mar 2010 | SAT  26 Jun 2010 | R/T | Business



Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------

9W         BOM     SFO    136000   INR                      P2RTAS1

LH         BOM     SFO    139000   INR                      ZRCZAAW

9W         BOM     SFO    195000   INR                      I2RTAS

Rules for the first 9w fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - DotRes: BOM-SFO/9W/P2RTAS1/136000 INR]

Code:

ELIGIBILITY : NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.



DAY_TIME : NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



SEASONALITY : NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.



FLIGHT_APPLICATION : IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA

  AND UNITED STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  BD FLIGHTS 2500 THROUGH 4999

  SN FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999

  SN FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999

  BA FLIGHTS 4300 THROUGH 4309

  BA FLIGHTS 4450 THROUGH 4499

  BA FLIGHTS 4550 THROUGH 4649

  BA FLIGHTS 4900 THROUGH 6099

  BA FLIGHTS 7050 THROUGH 7499

  9W FLIGHTS 5192 THROUGH 5193.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA AND

  NYC

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY 9W FLIGHT

  ANY BA FLIGHT

  ANY BD FLIGHT

  ANY SN FLIGHT

  ANY VG FLIGHT

  ANY 9F FLIGHT

  ANY S2 FLIGHT.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED

  STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  UA FLIGHTS 5700 THROUGH 5799

  UA FLIGHTS 8100 THROUGH 9999

  UA FLIGHTS 1700 THROUGH 5199.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED

  STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA

  AND UNITED STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  BD FLIGHTS 2500 THROUGH 4999

  SN FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999

  SN FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999

  BA FLIGHTS 4300 THROUGH 4309

  BA FLIGHTS 4450 THROUGH 4499

  BA FLIGHTS 4550 THROUGH 4649

  BA FLIGHTS 4900 THROUGH 6099

  BA FLIGHTS 7050 THROUGH 7499

  9W FLIGHTS 5192 THROUGH 5193.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA AND

  NYC

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY 9W FLIGHT

  ANY BA FLIGHT

  ANY BD FLIGHT

  ANY SN FLIGHT

  ANY VG FLIGHT

  ANY 9F FLIGHT

  ANY S2 FLIGHT.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED

  STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  AA FLIGHTS 5600 THROUGH 8399.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED

  STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY 9W FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA

  ANY AA FLIGHT.

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA

  AND UNITED STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  BD FLIGHTS 2500 THROUGH 4999

  SN FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999

  SN FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999

  BA FLIGHTS 4300 THROUGH 4309

  BA FLIGHTS 4450 THROUGH 4499

  BA FLIGHTS 4550 THROUGH 4649

  BA FLIGHTS 4900 THROUGH 6099

  BA FLIGHTS 7050 THROUGH 7499

  9W FLIGHTS 5192 THROUGH 5193.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA AND

  NYC

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY 9W FLIGHT

  ANY BA FLIGHT

  ANY BD FLIGHT

  ANY SN FLIGHT

  ANY VG FLIGHT

  ANY 9F FLIGHT

  ANY S2 FLIGHT.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED

  STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  US FLIGHTS 4800 THROUGH 8799.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED

  STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY US FLIGHT.

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA

  AND UNITED STATES

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  BD FLIGHTS 2500 THROUGH 4999

  SN FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999

  SN FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999

  BA FLIGHTS 4300 THROUGH 4309

  BA FLIGHTS 4450 THROUGH 4499

  BA FLIGHTS 4550 THROUGH 4649

  BA FLIGHTS 4900 THROUGH 6099

  BA FLIGHTS 7050 THROUGH 7499

  9W FLIGHTS 5192 THROUGH 5193.

  AND

  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN INDIA AND

  NYC

  THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON

  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING

  ANY 9W FLIGHT

  ANY BA FLIGHT

  ANY BD FLIGHT

  ANY SN FLIGHT

  ANY VG FLIGHT

  ANY 9F FLIGHT

  ANY S2 FLIGHT.



ADVANCE_RESERVATIONS_TICKETING : CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.

  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE

  DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 14 DAYS

  AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

  OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL

  SECTORS.

  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 45 DAYS BEFORE

  DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 10

  DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

  OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL

  SECTORS.

  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE

  DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 5

  DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

  OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL

  SECTORS.

  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 8 DAYS BEFORE

  DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72

  HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

  OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL

  SECTORS.

  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 4 DAYS BEFORE

  DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24

  HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

  OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND

  TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME.



MINIMUM_STAY : NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.



MAXIMUM_STAY : TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN

  12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.



STOPOVERS : UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED

  LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT INR 2200

  EACH.

  1 FREE IN BRU EITHER OUT/IN

  UNLIMITED IN INDIA/UNLIMITED/BRU AT INR 2200.

  AND - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED

  LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT INR 2500.

  1 FREE IN NYC

  1 IN NYC AT INR 2500.



TRANSFERS : 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 2 IN EACH

  DIRECTION.

  2 PERMITTED IN BOM/DEL

  2 PERMITTED IN MAA

  2 PERMITTED IN BRU.

  AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN

  EACH DIRECTION

  LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT INR 15000 EACH.

  IN LON IN EACH DIRECTION.

  AND - 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 2 IN

  EACH DIRECTION.

  2 PERMITTED IN NYC

  2 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES.

  FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT

  PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.



COMBINATIONS : ADD-ONS PERMITTED.

  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS

  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS

  -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS

  -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.

  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS NOTE -

  MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY.

  PROVIDED -

  COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER 9W IN

  ANY RULE IN TARIFF

  IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2

  IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL

  IPRP    - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC.

  END-ON-END

  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE

  COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE

  TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.

  PROVIDED -

  COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER 9W/S2 IN ANY RULE IN

  ANY TARIFF.



BLACKOUT_DATES : OUTBOUND -

  TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15JUN THROUGH 15SEP OR 25DEC

  THROUGH 31JAN OF THE NEXT YEAR FOR DEPARTURE OF

  FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.



SURCHARGES : THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.

  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY CRS/CXR DEPT VGF/VGH/VVY/

  UVV.

  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF EUR 30.00 PER

  TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN NEPAL.

  THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER

  TICKET.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.

  OR - IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.

  THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE.

  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES WILL BE EXEMPTED

  INFANTS

  ONE OR MORE SECTORS IN THE ITINERARY

  IS NOT E-TICKET ENABLED.

  ONE OR MORE SECTORS IN THE ITINERARY IS

  ON A CARRIER WITH WHICH THERE IS NO INTERLINE

  E-TICKETING AGREEMENT.

  IATA APPLICANTS USING 9W DEDICATED TICKET STOCK.

  THE TICKET IS A ZED TICKET AND IS NOT COVERED

  UNDER THE INTERLINE E-TICKETING AGREEMENT.

  ONE FARE PASS

  JET AIRWAYS TICKET/AIRPORT OFFICES WHERE E-TICKETS

  CANNOT BE ISSUED DUE OPERATIONAL REASONS.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EITHER THE PLATE OR STOCK OF

  9W WHEN AND ARE SOLD IN UNITED KINGDOM.

  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF GBP 25.00 PER

  TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EITHER THE PLATE OR STOCK OF

  9W WHEN AND ARE SOLD IN UNITED STATES/CANADA.

  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 50.00 PER

  TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EITHER THE PLATE OR STOCK OF

  9W WHEN AND ARE SOLD IN INDIA.

  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF INR 1000 PER TICKET

  WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EITHER THE PLATE OR STOCK OF

  9W WHEN AND ARE SOLD IN EUROPE.

  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF EUR 50.00 PER

  TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EITHER THE PLATE OR STOCK OF

  9W.

  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 50.00 PER

  TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.

  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  OR EQUIVALENT MUST BE LEVIED.



ACCOMPANIED_TRAVEL : ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.



TRAVEL_RESTRICTIONS : VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 30APR10.



SALES_RESTRICTIONS : FOOTNOTE RULE

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31MAR10.



  FARE RULE

  EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.



PENALTIES : CHANGES



  ANY TIME

  CHARGE INR 10000.

  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  DATE CHANGE - ANY CHANGES CHARGE INR 10000/- PER

  TRANSACTION.

  ABOVE CHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO DOMESTIC SECTORS

  -----

  REROUTING - ONLY INVOLUNTARY REROUTING PERMITTED.

  VOLUNTARY REROUTING PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF

  INR 2200/- PER TRANSACTION.

  -----

  TICKET HAS TO BE REISSUED FOR ANY DATE/FLIGHT

  CHANGE.



  CANCELLATIONS



  BEFORE DEPARTURE

  CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED.

  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  CHARGE 25 PERCENT OF THE FARE FOR CANCEL/REFUND.



  AFTER DEPARTURE

  TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.

  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  INFANT DISCOUNT APPLIES

  ---------



  CHARGE INR 9000 FOR NO-SHOW.

  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  CHARGE THE ABOVE IN ADDITION TO

  25PERCENT OF THE BASE FARE AS CHARGES .



HIP_MILEAGE_EXCEPTIONS : THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR

  STOPOVERS.



TICKET_ENDORSEMENTS : THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED

  - NON END/PENALTIES APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.



CHILDREN_DISCOUNTS : CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-12 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF

  THE FARE.

  OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 6-12 - CHARGE 100

  PERCENT OF THE FARE.

  OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75

  PERCENT OF THE FARE.

  OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10

  PERCENT OF THE FARE.



TOUR_CONDUCTOR_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.



AGENT_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.



ALL_OTHER_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.



MISCELLANEOUS_PROVISIONS : NO PROVISIONS APPLY.



GROUPS : NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.



TOURS : NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.



VISIT_ANOTHER_COUNTRY : NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.



DEPOSITS : NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.



RULE_APPLICATION_AND_OTHER_CONDITIONS : NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT

  VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.

  9W FARES FROM INDIA TO US

  APPLICATION

  AREA

  THESE FARES APPLY

  FROM INDIA

  TO UNITED STATES.

  CLASS OF SERVICE

  THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS

  SERVICE.

  TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION

  THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.

  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE

  ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.

  OTHER CONDITIONS

  BAGGAGE ALLOWACE FOR 9W OPERATED FLIGHTS ONLY IS

  AS FOLLOWS-

  BAGGAGE ALLOWACE FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN AGED 2YRS

  AND OVER---

  FIRST CLASS- TOTAL 3 PIECES OF 23KGS EACH.

  PREMIERE CLASS- TOTAL 3 PIECES OF 23KGS EACH.

  ECONOMY CLASS- TOTAL 2 PIECE OF 23 KGS EACH.

  --------------------------------------------------

  BAGGAGE ALLOWACE FOR INFANTS UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE

  WITHOUT A SEAT--

  FIRST CLASS- TOTAL 1 PIECE OF 23KG

  PREMIERE CLASS- TOTAL 1 PIECE OF 23KGS

  ECONOMY CLASS- TOTAL 1 PIECE OF 23 KGS

  --------------------------------------------------

  OVERWEIGHT RATE- USD 50 FOR ANY PIECE WEIGHING

  BETWEEN 23-32 KGS

  --------------------------------------------------

  EXTRA PIECE-A FLAT RATE OF USD 150 PER PIECE WILL

  BE CHARGED FOR EACH EXTRA PIECE.THE MAXIMUM

  DIMENSION AND WEIGHT FOR THE EACH EXTRA PIECE

  SHOULD BE THE SAME AS MENTIONED ABOVE.

  --------------------------------------------------

  FOR STUDENTS TRAVELLING ON ONEWAY/RETURN TICKETS

  FROM INDIA TO USA ON 9W DOCUMENT WITH THE

  TRANSATLANTIC SEGMENT ON A 9W OPERATED FLIGHT

  AND TRAVEL ON USA DOMESTIC SECTORS ON AA OPERATED

  FLIGHT TOTAL 3 PIECES OF 23KGS EACH IS PERMITTED.

  THIS NEEDS TO BE MENTIONED IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX

  ON THE TICKET AS -PAX TYPE STUDENT-3PC

  OF 23KGS EACH PERMITTED-

  ---------------------------------------------

  DL AIRLINE SELLUPS                   ONEWAY

  T TO U                          INR2000

  T TO L                          INR3500.

Routing:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - Routing Rules: BOM-SFO/9W/P2RTAS1/136000 INR]

Code:

BOMSFO-9W  2MAR10      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0001 RULE INUS 

* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                          

   -FARE BASIS         INR       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 

P2RTAS1         R    136000   2924.16               ADT  EX  AT 

P2RTAS1/CH25    R    102000   2193.12               CNN  EX  AT 

P2RTAS1         R    136000   2924.16               UNN  EX  AT 

P2RTAS1/IN25    R    102000   2193.12               INS  EX  AT 

P2RTAS1/IN90    R     13600    292.40               INF  EX  AT 

BOOKING CODES        P                                          

PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                            

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE -  BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION             

MPM - AT 12123 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC

---------------------------------------------------------------



ROUTING   79 FROM-TO  BOM-LON-VG/BD/BA/9W/9F-BRU-NYC-US/UA/     

                      AA/9W-SFO*                                

             FROM-TO  BOM-S2/9W-LON-VG/BD/BA/9W/9F-BRU-NYC-     

                      US/UA/AA/9W-SFO*                          

             FROM-TO  BOM-S2/9W-MAA/DEL-LON-VG/BD/BA/9W/9F-     

                      BRU-NYC-US/UA/AA/9W-SFO*

1.36 base for one way or re

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Originally Posted by spiffed (Post 13495961)

1.36 base for one way or re

return....

your best option is to fly to either jfk or ewr with jet & then take a connecting aa flight to sfo....you won't get tier miles on the ny-sfo sector but you will still get partner miles....

just fly 9w stateside and then take an AA flight to SFO

Quote:

Originally Posted by saad (Post 13496101)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hserus (Post 13506913)

just fly 9w stateside and then take an AA flight to SFO

Rules state:

"IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA."

With IT you will in 1W now.

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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 13506934)

Rules state:

"IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA."

actually AA is allowed too (further up the rules, and also in the routing rules).

I would avoid YYZ (especially on the in bound) if your destination that day is the USA; no point in doing immigration and customs twice.

If you fly AA to SFO then fly into JFK (not EWR); all AA's non-stops in NYC to SFO go from JFK. Also, if they are including a business class seat; prefer the 767-300 vs. 767-200; better J seats.

For AUS, it's switched. I would suggest landing at EWR with 9W and then connecting to AA via DFW and then to AUS. There are more flights from EWR to DFW than the once daily from JFK to DFW especially if there are flight delays.

I recall a CO non-stop from EWR to AUS. Perhaps you can book it as a UA flight number if allowed but then you don't the miles on 9W for that segment.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Bean (Post 13578923)

actually AA is allowed too (further up the rules, and also in the routing rules).

Yes, and also includes US :eek: in the routing rules!