AI on stops MAY get canned

Old Nov 7, 09, 6:53 am
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AI on stops MAY get canned

Report in LANDINGS.COM that AI in 'fleet rationalisation' may canc.el non stops to US
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Old Nov 7, 09, 8:01 am
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...ow/5204774.cms

The JFK-DEL/BOM routes loose 750 cr annually.
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Old Nov 7, 09, 9:13 am
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I hope they rationalize their fleet to 0
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Old Nov 7, 09, 9:19 am
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I hope they rationalize their fleet to 0
LOL !!! Though that perfectly reflects my sentiments...UA Fan, where are you?
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Originally Posted by rsh913 View Post
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The JFK-DEL/BOM routes loose 750 cr annually.
750 crore? so 2 crore daily, or $100,000 per flight per day? And they are adding a sure to be unprofitable tagon to IAD now? Are they insane? And who the heck is in charge of AI they seem to be going in 10 directions at once (all down)

BTW: Was the LAX-FRA-BOM run profitable on the now being phased out 744s?

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Old Nov 7, 09, 7:31 pm
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About 214,000$ per flight per day.
No - that is about $100,000. That's 4 flights a day - 2 in each direction from DEL and BOM. That is 1460 flights a year. $150 mil over that many flights works out to a little over $100,000 per flight.

Not that that makes it any better!
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Expat pilots hiring, account for 10% of AI salary bill

http://www.livemint.com/2009/11/0813...unt-f.html?h=B

sounds like AI union is in mood for expat bashing. not sure if it will be productive.
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No - that is about $100,000. That's 4 flights a day - 2 in each direction from DEL and BOM. That is 1460 flights a year. $150 mil over that many flights works out to a little over $100,000 per flight.

Not that that makes it any better!
If they could sell 10 more J/F seats at an average of $2K incremental profit per seat per direction that can plug about 20% of this gap then. Sad that with such new planes and great physical product they're destroying their brand and seem to be nowhere near maximizing revenue.
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they're destroying their brand
Based on many travelers perception of Air India destroying the brand and starting anew would be the best option
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If they could sell 10 more J/F seats at an average of $2K incremental profit per seat per direction that can plug about 20% of this gap then. Sad that with such new planes and great physical product they're destroying their brand and seem to be nowhere near maximizing revenue.
an American colleague just did this route (JFK-DEL-JFK) and loved it. He felt it was a better option than AA (out of Chicago). The business cabin was unfortunately not that full and he was able to get a full middle row to himself.

The food selection was very good and the seat was a real flat bed (as opposed to AA's angled)
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Based on many travelers perception of Air India destroying the brand and starting anew would be the best option
Resurrected as Bharat Airlines perhaps?
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Without marketing alliance and codesharing, these flights are expensive to operate. And it does not help that the planes are parked at JFK all day.

But with DL gone (except the one stop former NW route via AMS to BOM), and trimming perhaps to five times a week to DEL and BOM, AND joining the *A, perhaps these flights might still work.

Important thing is AI has to join the *A quickly and for that they have to integrate their website and code share all AI, AIX and IC flights with a single AI code. Now how difficult is that, especially in the land of Informational Technology ?
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Resurrected as Bharat Airlines perhaps?
How about Tata Airlines?
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How about Tata Airlines?
If that comes with the DNA of AI, then to quote Shakespeare, a rose by any other name...

Just that this is quite far from a rose !
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