Independence Air to end SFO service on 11/28/05
Oct 1, 2005, 10:13 am
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Independence Air to end SFO service on 11/28/05
When fledgling low-cost carrier Independence Air started flying out of San Francisco International Airport in May, the occasion was marked with cake and speeches.
On Friday, the struggling airline quietly announced plans to cease flying from SFO in two months, blaming high jet fuel prices.
The 2-year-old carrier based in Dulles, Va., will continue to fly twice a day from SFO to Washington Dulles International Airport through the end of October, reduce service on the route to once a day in November, and end it altogether on Nov. 28, airline spokesman Rick DeLisi said.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...UG8QF0RN31.DTL
On Friday, the struggling airline quietly announced plans to cease flying from SFO in two months, blaming high jet fuel prices.
The 2-year-old carrier based in Dulles, Va., will continue to fly twice a day from SFO to Washington Dulles International Airport through the end of October, reduce service on the route to once a day in November, and end it altogether on Nov. 28, airline spokesman Rick DeLisi said.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...UG8QF0RN31.DTL
Oct 1, 2005, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by jaguar
When fledgling low-cost carrier Independence Air started flying out of San Francisco International Airport in May, the occasion was marked with cake and speeches.
On Friday, the struggling airline quietly announced plans to cease flying from SFO in two months, blaming high jet fuel prices.
The 2-year-old carrier based in Dulles, Va., will continue to fly twice a day from SFO to Washington Dulles International Airport through the end of October, reduce service on the route to once a day in November, and end it altogether on Nov. 28, airline spokesman Rick DeLisi said.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...UG8QF0RN31.DTL
On Friday, the struggling airline quietly announced plans to cease flying from SFO in two months, blaming high jet fuel prices.
The 2-year-old carrier based in Dulles, Va., will continue to fly twice a day from SFO to Washington Dulles International Airport through the end of October, reduce service on the route to once a day in November, and end it altogether on Nov. 28, airline spokesman Rick DeLisi said.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...UG8QF0RN31.DTL
The Chronicle did not get this one correct.
What will happen is as follows:
SFO will continue as a daily service until 30 October. If you check the schedule, there are some dates in late October that will only be one round. After that, it will always be a one round trip service, but ONLY on ODD dates in November. Flight 240 will become Flight 238, departing at 19:30 instead of the current time of 17:10. Flight 243 will remain the same returning as a red-eye 20 minutes later than now at 23:20. The exceptions to the odd dates rule are 6, 10, 22 & 28 November, which will all have one round trip. 28 November is also the last day of service.
Cheers.
Oct 2, 2005, 9:59 pm
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High Fuel Costs?
Seemingly, the Airbus is much more fuel efficient than the CRJ and longer trips more efficient than shorter trips. I suspect that they just didn't get the loads that they were so confidently hoping and when UA matched them on price - well there was just no future continuing to serve SFO.
JetBlue came in and is competing with UA on the IAD-OAK route. From what I read, JetBlue offers a far superior to Independence. UA has a much more massive feeder system, lounges, *Alliance, First Class etc. that really made Independence no match.
JetBlue came in and is competing with UA on the IAD-OAK route. From what I read, JetBlue offers a far superior to Independence. UA has a much more massive feeder system, lounges, *Alliance, First Class etc. that really made Independence no match.
Oct 2, 2005, 10:18 pm
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I agree with your assesment.
Oct 3, 2005, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by santarosaflyer
Seemingly, the Airbus is much more fuel efficient than the CRJ and longer trips more efficient than shorter trips. I suspect that they just didn't get the loads that they were so confidently hoping and when UA matched them on price - well there was just no future continuing to serve SFO.
JetBlue came in and is competing with UA on the IAD-OAK route. From what I read, JetBlue offers a far superior to Independence. UA has a much more massive feeder system, lounges, *Alliance, First Class etc. that really made Independence no match.
JetBlue came in and is competing with UA on the IAD-OAK route. From what I read, JetBlue offers a far superior to Independence. UA has a much more massive feeder system, lounges, *Alliance, First Class etc. that really made Independence no match.
Take a look at the fares and you can see what is going on. It is extremely difficult with all the competition in the West Coast markets (note; the things you mention above) to get pax to pay the higher fares on DH. However, more pax pay the higher fares in the East. Even with the A319s, I think it would take a very high average fare to even get close to covering costs. So I think you are right about matching and the pains of competition (their added benefits). Yet, this has dragged down the revenue, not the LF.
Cheers.
Oct 11, 2005, 2:10 pm
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How crowded on Sunday mornings flights to SFO
What have the October loads been like for the Sunday morning flights to SFO? Anyone know?
