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kpottermn May 2, 2019 6:52 am


Originally Posted by BA0197 (Post 31054668)
Is anyone able to price up AA awards on iberia.com without getting a 9100 error that reads that "no flight conforms to the criteria selected"? Just trying to figure out if it is an issue with iberia or with my account.

Still getting the same error a week later.

kpottermn May 2, 2019 7:34 am

Just got off the phone with an Iberia agent, who could still see AA award space. But it seems like award rates are goofy.

guv1976 May 2, 2019 11:23 am


Originally Posted by kpottermn (Post 31059569)
Just got off the phone with an Iberia agent, who could still see AA award space. But it seems like award rates are goofy.

Goofy in what sense? Can you give an example?

kpottermn May 3, 2019 6:08 am


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 31060393)
Goofy in what sense? Can you give an example?

A RT domestic flight that was typically 12k priced out at 22k with some much higher fees. In my experience in the past, AA flights were either available at the lowest saver levels, or not at all.

BA6501 May 3, 2019 6:56 am

What's the routing? It might be that it's just over the cutoff, or the agent was perhaps counting ground segments?

kpottermn May 3, 2019 7:31 am


Originally Posted by BA6501 (Post 31062924)
What's the routing? It might be that it's just over the cutoff, or the agent was perhaps counting ground segments?

MSP-ORD. I've booked it before at 12k.

Yllanes May 3, 2019 9:07 am


Originally Posted by kpottermn (Post 31062786)
A RT domestic flight that was typically 12k priced out at 22k with some much higher fees. In my experience in the past, AA flights were either available at the lowest saver levels, or not at all.

That's well below the maximum distance (1000 mi) for 12k Avios. And even 2000 mi is 17k Avios. The only thing I can think of is that there is a Full Y redemption chart that would be 21k in that band, but it is supposed to be used only for bookings that include IB flights.

In any case, it's clear that something is going on. I have just tried several city combinations that really should have award space and it doesn't work.

However, MSP-ORD-MSP is only 15k Avios with BA and it gets you a refundable ticket. In this case I don't see the advantage of booking with IB.

kpottermn May 3, 2019 11:49 am


Originally Posted by Yllanes (Post 31063326)
That's well below the maximum distance (1000 mi) for 12k Avios. And even 2000 mi is 17k Avios. The only thing I can think of is that there is a Full Y redemption chart that would be 21k in that band, but it is supposed to be used only for bookings that include IB flights.

In any case, it's clear that something is going on. I have just tried several city combinations that really should have award space and it doesn't work.

However, MSP-ORD-MSP is only 15k Avios with BA and it gets you a refundable ticket. In this case I don't see the advantage of booking with IB.

No doubt. I just used that as an example because it's what I'm most familiar with. I'm concerned about the principle of whatever is going on with AA awards, not this particular route.

craigthemif May 3, 2019 12:01 pm

With BA devaluing, you should expect the same from IB sooner or later...

guv1976 May 3, 2019 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by kpottermn (Post 31062786)
A RT domestic flight that was typically 12k priced out at 22k with some much higher fees. In my experience in the past, AA flights were either available at the lowest saver levels, or not at all.

Given recent reports that IB is now permitting one-way redemptions on AA (using the same distance-based chart used for roundtrips), I wonder if the IB agent mistakenly priced the itinerary as two one-ways, rather than one roundtrip. (11,000 x 2 = 22,000).

How much were the quoted fees?

guv1976 May 3, 2019 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by Yllanes (Post 31063326)
However, MSP-ORD-MSP is only 15k Avios with BA and it gets you a refundable ticket. In this case I don't see the advantage of booking with IB.

That, of course, is changing at the end of this month, with the changes recently announced by BA for partner redemptions. What's unclear is whether it's changing to 12,000 Avios (if BAEC restores Band 1 redemptions to North America), or to 18,000 Avios (if Band 1 redemptions will still be prohibited for redemptions within North America even after the new rate chart goes into effect).

guv1976 May 3, 2019 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by kpottermn (Post 31063025)
MSP-ORD. I've booked it before at 12k.

Depending on how often you've redeemed IB Plus Avios for domestic travel on AA, you might be interested in this thread. You could be due a tidy cash refund.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/iber...n-tickets.html

alphaeagle May 10, 2019 2:07 pm

AA still isn't bookable it seems. Hope something good will come out of it, wanted to book flights by now but also don't want to deal with their phone agents who I'm afraid will make a non-refundable blunder.

I also don't have enough Avios for an AA redemption at the moment, I'd need to transfer them over. But wanted to first check prices since it's right on the exact amount before the next redemption tier, so not sure what they'll charge for it since they likely use a distance calculator different than Great Circle Mapper. If that's the issue that you need enough miles in your account to see the options, that is an easy fix. But I'd guess someone would have mentioned that by now if that was the case.

guv1976 May 10, 2019 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by alphaeagle (Post 31087993)
AA still isn't bookable it seems. Hope something good will come out of it, wanted to book flights by now but also don't want to deal with their phone agents who I'm afraid will make a non-refundable blunder.

I also don't have enough Avios for an AA redemption at the moment, I'd need to transfer them over. But wanted to first check prices since it's right on the exact amount before the next redemption tier, so not sure what they'll charge for it since they likely use a distance calculator different than Great Circle Mapper. If that's the issue that you need enough miles in your account to see the options, that is an easy fix. But I'd guess someone would have mentioned that by now if that was the case.

Under U.S. DOT rules, wouldn't you have 24 hours to cancel an otherwise non-refundable Iberia Plus redemption for travel on AA? What AA route are you looking at?

alphaeagle May 10, 2019 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 31088274)
Under U.S. DOT rules, wouldn't you have 24 hours to cancel an otherwise non-refundable Iberia Plus redemption for travel on AA? What AA route are you looking at?

That's in theory, last time I tried to cancel just a few hours after booking it was a huge hassle. Eventually was able to get it refunded, but I try to avoid any reason that I have to actually interact with any of their phone agents if at all possible.


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