Dec 1, 2018, 5:32 am
Last edit by: Travel-Quinten
This thread provides information, experiences and thoughts relating to the IB promotion in June 2018, whereby it was possible to get up to 90k bonus Avios for making Iberia bookings. The terms and conditions of this offer indicated that these bonus Avios needed to be used before 1 December. Consequently from 1 December 2018 Iberia has withdrawn Avios for at least some accounts. At least 1 person reported an account with a negative balance could be closed without problems.
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Breaking: CAN transfer bonus avios to BAEC!l [thread closed]
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Dec 5, 2018, 3:01 pm
#108
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I meant that you could probably change your name, email address, passport number etc. to some bogus data.
Then have the account deleted and create a new one with the same data.
Whether that would be a good idea, is a different matter.
Then have the account deleted and create a new one with the same data.
Whether that would be a good idea, is a different matter.
Dec 5, 2018, 3:09 pm
#109
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Marbella spain
Programs: Avios, Aeroplan, HH, Accor, IHG
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what about my icon visa. i think its a mess. i actually fly vueling alot although i credit all my IB flights to BAEC.
Dec 6, 2018, 1:11 am
#110
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You'd have to get rid of your Icon as well. Even if the bank lets you change the IB+ number they send the Avios to, that's another red flag of suspicious behaviour that might prompt IB+ to audit you and close down your account.
Dec 6, 2018, 12:57 pm
#113
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,351
It really seems asking for too much trouble just to save some Avios, which, if they come from the promotion, did not cost too much money. Plus you won't solve the problem of your Icon crediting to an IB+ account with a negative balance. I would just accept the loss of Avios and move on.
Dec 6, 2018, 1:27 pm
#114
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Agreed. If someone wants to go the "delete accounts and create new ones" route, it makes sense to get rid of all existing avios accounts. If you have previously linked BAEC, IB+, and/or avios.com/EI accounts, IAG knows and is unlikely to forget. By not deleting everything, one is risking account closures.
On the other hand, IAG is not very good at figuring out if a user is doing multi-accounting. A new email address is like a new life.... So I would be somewhat surprised to see problems if somebody starts afresh with all IAG accounts simultaneously.
On the other hand, IAG is not very good at figuring out if a user is doing multi-accounting. A new email address is like a new life.... So I would be somewhat surprised to see problems if somebody starts afresh with all IAG accounts simultaneously.
Dec 6, 2018, 2:30 pm
#115
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Agreed. If someone wants to go the "delete accounts and create new ones" route, it makes sense to get rid of all existing avios accounts. If you have previously linked BAEC, IB+, and/or avios.com/EI accounts, IAG knows and is unlikely to forget. By not deleting everything, one is risking account closures.
On the other hand, IAG is not very good at figuring out if a user is doing multi-accounting. A new email address is like a new life.... So I would be somewhat surprised to see problems if somebody starts afresh with all IAG accounts simultaneously.
On the other hand, IAG is not very good at figuring out if a user is doing multi-accounting. A new email address is like a new life.... So I would be somewhat surprised to see problems if somebody starts afresh with all IAG accounts simultaneously.
The thing about blatantly breaking the rules is that it is much harder to plead ignorance and/or beg for mercy if you get caught. Which might never happen of course, but is -90K Avios (not even 1,000 euros to buy via Groupon) worth the risk?
Dec 6, 2018, 2:42 pm
#116
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,904
Not to mention that you'll have to spend a year or two not really collecting Avios, until you feel confident enough that any new Avios earned won't be confiscated. You might also need all new credit cards, since the same payment method used for two supposedly different "John Smith"s also looks dodgy.
Dec 6, 2018, 2:56 pm
#117
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Dec 7, 2018, 12:59 am
#118
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Have not asked about route changes, but would prefer to do that. Might try this today. Does anyone know about that? I would like to change the destination from LAS to ORD or DEN. While ORD is in an even lower mileage band, DEN costs 92750 miles as well.
Dec 7, 2018, 3:16 am
#119
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
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Route changes are not possible, you need to cancel and rebook.
The Avios refund seems to be a manual process, so it’s very possible that they can easily enforce the rules.
The Avios refund seems to be a manual process, so it’s very possible that they can easily enforce the rules.
Dec 7, 2018, 12:30 pm
#120
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: England - UK
Posts: 512
My understanding is that if you cancel your booking now you will lose the avios as it's after the 1st December deadline. Amusing of course the booking was made with the promotional avios.