Park Hyatt Washington D.C. REVIEW - MASTER THREAD
#736
I'm with OP on this, and the breakfast benefit is one reason I haven't stayed here as much... end up paying more in overage than I would getting breakfast down the street some place, which isn't the point of "included" breakfast.
The $40pp is post tax and tip so you're really only looking at $30ish in pre-tax credit. Coffee is $7, fresh OJ is $10 a glass, and even the basic 2-egg-and-toast breakfast is $22 (as is avocado toast; $34 if you get it with salmon... the egg white/crab scramble is $28, etc.).
So the $40pp here is in some ways "cheaper" than a $15 credit at a Hilton where it covers an $8 breakfast sandwich, a $4 juice, and a $3 coffee or whatever.
$40 pretax would be reasonable and is typically more or less what I spend... but then end up paying $20/day in tax/tip/overage.
The $40pp is post tax and tip so you're really only looking at $30ish in pre-tax credit. Coffee is $7, fresh OJ is $10 a glass, and even the basic 2-egg-and-toast breakfast is $22 (as is avocado toast; $34 if you get it with salmon... the egg white/crab scramble is $28, etc.).
So the $40pp here is in some ways "cheaper" than a $15 credit at a Hilton where it covers an $8 breakfast sandwich, a $4 juice, and a $3 coffee or whatever.
$40 pretax would be reasonable and is typically more or less what I spend... but then end up paying $20/day in tax/tip/overage.
However, don’t the T&Cs spell out what Globalist breakfast entails - something like hot drink, cold drink, and main dish? Why can’t hotels just leave it at that?
As other have pointed out, PH DC typically waives any overage anyhow.
#737
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I'm with OP on this, and the breakfast benefit is one reason I haven't stayed here as much... end up paying more in overage than I would getting breakfast down the street some place, which isn't the point of "included" breakfast.
The $40pp is post tax and tip so you're really only looking at $30ish in pre-tax credit. Coffee is $7, fresh OJ is $10 a glass, and even the basic 2-egg-and-toast breakfast is $22 (as is avocado toast; $34 if you get it with salmon... the egg white/crab scramble is $28, etc.).
So the $40pp here is in some ways "cheaper" than a $15 credit at a Hilton where it covers an $8 breakfast sandwich, a $4 juice, and a $3 coffee or whatever.
$40 pretax would be reasonable and is typically more or less what I spend... but then end up paying $20/day in tax/tip/overage.
The $40pp is post tax and tip so you're really only looking at $30ish in pre-tax credit. Coffee is $7, fresh OJ is $10 a glass, and even the basic 2-egg-and-toast breakfast is $22 (as is avocado toast; $34 if you get it with salmon... the egg white/crab scramble is $28, etc.).
So the $40pp here is in some ways "cheaper" than a $15 credit at a Hilton where it covers an $8 breakfast sandwich, a $4 juice, and a $3 coffee or whatever.
$40 pretax would be reasonable and is typically more or less what I spend... but then end up paying $20/day in tax/tip/overage.
is now trying to monetize,chip away @elite benefits and get the free breakfast paid for with on the overcharges
Having said that when I stay at the Waldorf a 25 voucher goes further (pre pandemic) as the servers typically
allow me help myself to the stunning continental buffet fruit assorted breads danish smoothies etc and
only apply the dollar amount to the actual entree.I am slightly less likely to stay at a given Hyatt unless now
price and or quality trumps the competing brand to start paying for various parts of the breakfast
Of course with every program it will be hit and miss with these new polices as to good or bad.
As others have speculated perhaps in some of the hotels
its just a reminder to some not to over order for those that are being excessive.
At the end of the day the complimentary breakfast is complimentary or it isn't based on the new WOH pecking order
YMMV.
Last edited by 777 global mile hound; Jul 24, 2021 at 11:37 am
#738
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Agree. The dollar limit is obnoxious. Then again so is people over ordering just because the food is free.
However, don’t the T&Cs spell out what Globalist breakfast entails - something like hot drink, cold drink, and main dish? Why can’t hotels just leave it at that?
As other have pointed out, PH DC typically waives any overage anyhow.
However, don’t the T&Cs spell out what Globalist breakfast entails - something like hot drink, cold drink, and main dish? Why can’t hotels just leave it at that?
As other have pointed out, PH DC typically waives any overage anyhow.
#739
It's also supposed to be for the two people (including Glob "OP") staying in the "OP's" room, unless the second room is booked as Guest of Honor using points. The hotel kindly doubled the breakfast benefit by extending it to the two people in the second room. Hence the "OP" here is collecting a breakfast benefit of $160 per day. I think that's extremely generous.
there are actual bad actor hotels, and this is not one of them.
#740
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Agree. The dollar limit is obnoxious. Then again so is people over ordering just because the food is free.
However, don’t the T&Cs spell out what Globalist breakfast entails - something like hot drink, cold drink, and main dish? Why can’t hotels just leave it at that?
As other have pointed out, PH DC typically waives any overage anyhow.
However, don’t the T&Cs spell out what Globalist breakfast entails - something like hot drink, cold drink, and main dish? Why can’t hotels just leave it at that?
As other have pointed out, PH DC typically waives any overage anyhow.
I agree re: over ordering. But it actually takes penny-counting to order a dish, coffee, and juice and come in under the credit here.
#741
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While we're at it, what would the group do on a 2-night stay where early check-in was not needed:
1. book via Hyatt for $297/night, or
2. book via Amex FHR for $349/night (the higher rate is $104++ more, and it costs more even after the $100 credit because the full rate subject to the hotel taxes whereas the $100 credit is, I believe, just a post-tax credit to the folio).
So as of now I'm on the Hyatt rate. But if there's a reason to pay the slight extra for the Amex FHR rate I'd like to hear it.
1. book via Hyatt for $297/night, or
2. book via Amex FHR for $349/night (the higher rate is $104++ more, and it costs more even after the $100 credit because the full rate subject to the hotel taxes whereas the $100 credit is, I believe, just a post-tax credit to the folio).
So as of now I'm on the Hyatt rate. But if there's a reason to pay the slight extra for the Amex FHR rate I'd like to hear it.
#742
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While we're at it, what would the group do on a 2-night stay where early check-in was not needed:
1. book via Hyatt for $297/night, or
2. book via Amex FHR for $349/night (the higher rate is $104++ more, and it costs more even after the $100 credit because the full rate subject to the hotel taxes whereas the $100 credit is, I believe, just a post-tax credit to the folio).
So as of now I'm on the Hyatt rate. But if there's a reason to pay the slight extra for the Amex FHR rate I'd like to hear it.
1. book via Hyatt for $297/night, or
2. book via Amex FHR for $349/night (the higher rate is $104++ more, and it costs more even after the $100 credit because the full rate subject to the hotel taxes whereas the $100 credit is, I believe, just a post-tax credit to the folio).
So as of now I'm on the Hyatt rate. But if there's a reason to pay the slight extra for the Amex FHR rate I'd like to hear it.
#743
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While we're at it, what would the group do on a 2-night stay where early check-in was not needed:
1. book via Hyatt for $297/night, or
2. book via Amex FHR for $349/night (the higher rate is $104++ more, and it costs more even after the $100 credit because the full rate subject to the hotel taxes whereas the $100 credit is, I believe, just a post-tax credit to the folio).
So as of now I'm on the Hyatt rate. But if there's a reason to pay the slight extra for the Amex FHR rate I'd like to hear it.
1. book via Hyatt for $297/night, or
2. book via Amex FHR for $349/night (the higher rate is $104++ more, and it costs more even after the $100 credit because the full rate subject to the hotel taxes whereas the $100 credit is, I believe, just a post-tax credit to the folio).
So as of now I'm on the Hyatt rate. But if there's a reason to pay the slight extra for the Amex FHR rate I'd like to hear it.
#744
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FHR is a risk for other programs but not for Hyatt. It will credit as a matter of policy. I have never had it not credit automatically but you can ask a globalist concierge to correct the issue if it ever happens.
#745
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Booked a Park Executive Suite using points + cash and was upgraded to a Georgetown Suite. Was secretly hoping I'd get the Ambassador Suite but I prefer the 4-person dining table of the Georgetown Suite.
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#746
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Some time a year or two ago, I tried to book the Georgetown Suite on a Prive rate and upgrade to the Ambassador, but the property said it wouldn't upgrade above the Georgetown suite. Shrug.
#747
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#748
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Had a fantastic stay at the PH DC. The Georgetown Suite was beautifully appointed and very comfortable. Even the rollaway bed was great! Excellent breakfast at BDT and wonderful rain showers. Would definitely return. Surprised that it's only a Category 5 hotel.
#749
Surprised to hear this. My experience was that my 5 year old son refused to sleep on the rollaway due to feeling the springs poking his back. Though he was being dramatic, but then felt it myself and found the quality of the mattress to be awful. Must just be luck of the draw. Glad you had a great stay.
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Totally agree. So much of what you read now is severe staff shortages, no service, no this, no that. I had a 3 night stay starting July 4th (BTW the fireworks were absolutely spectacular) and you would be hard pressed to know it was not 2019. An almost flawless stay. Enjoying breakfast at the BDT outside by the fountain and garden was delightful and delicious with quality service too . I am particularly impressed that the room refresh in 2017 was overseen by Tony Chi who was responsible for the full 2006 renovation. So nice to see a thoughtful renovation that retains the comfortable residential luxury of the PH brand.
Last edited by schriste; Jul 26, 2021 at 2:18 pm