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Renard Jan 12, 2006 9:45 pm

Maui Hyatt Time-Share Proposed
 
Posted on: Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Time-share at Hyatt sought

By Lynda Arakawa
Advertiser Staff Writer


Host Marriott Corp. is proposing to add a 12-story, 121-unit time-share building and pool at the Hyatt Regency Maui Resort in Ka'anapali.

The Maryland-based company is getting ready to prepare a draft environmental impact statement for the project, which involves redeveloping a four-acre site — primarily a parking lot — adjacent to the 806-room Hyatt Regency hotel.

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gregorygrady Jan 13, 2006 10:19 am

Hmmm, interesting. From the article it seems like they would rip out the tennis courts and replace it with some type of parking structure. I'm sure there could be a better use of the current parking lot (Whalers Village-side) that is North of the hotel........and probably a better use of the one that is South of the hotel (Lahaina-side) as well now that I think about it. And that big huge green lawn that is just next to the Hyatt toward Whalers Village is just ripe for some type of construction.

abouna Jan 13, 2006 9:43 pm

The Maui Ocean Club is already adding two more timeshare towers at the Marriott next door. They are tearing down the existing Marriott parking lot on the Hyatt side.

divaof travel Jan 14, 2006 1:26 am

Kaanapali will be looking more more and like Waikiki. All concrete right to the beach.

Altaflyer Jan 14, 2006 8:09 am

And with all the new construction, getting there from OGG will be even more pleasant than it is now! I think that notwithstanding Hyatt's presence there I will try to stick to Wailea.

oc2005 Jan 8, 2013 8:14 am

Wow, after 7 years of no news, it looks like this is finally actually happening:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hya...ach-2012-11-20

I wonder if the plan is still to build a new parking structure for the existing Hyatt?

JetAway Jan 8, 2013 11:57 am

They had started work on the sales offices (located in the Napili Tower) when I was there in December.

MSPeconomist Jan 8, 2013 6:02 pm

I'm confused: Marriott will be managing a time share property on the premises of a Hyatt? Will the Marriott time share fractional owners be able to use the Hyatt hotel's facilities? This could lead to some interesting allocations of costs and fees.

seaduck79 Jan 8, 2013 10:46 pm

It is indeed happening. The 131 unit development will, from what I have been told, be in that front parking lot, and construction will begin soon. The parking lost will be replaced by increasing the size of the back (valet) lot and by adding more parking in what is now open ground down by the tennis courts. I have walked down there some, and there is lots of just plain green grass next to the golf course that could be put to some use.

If you are planning to stay there anytime this spring/summer, I would recommend avoiding the Napili tower to miss the noise and visual occlusion from construction. They have worked hard to minimize it, and have had several noise mitigation meetings with the local government, but building things makes noise. And the traffic will be a mess getting into and out of the hotel.

That being said, I have stayed there before when exterior painting, tree trimming, and other types of maintenance was being done, and they are pretty respectful of the guests' experience while doing so. So plan accordingly. If you think you would prefer the new Andaz in Wailea, go for it. We might go to the Maui HR anyway, or may go to Kauai this year.

oc2005 Jan 8, 2013 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 20005966)
I'm confused: Marriott will be managing a time share property on the premises of a Hyatt? Will the Marriott time share fractional owners be able to use the Hyatt hotel's facilities? This could lead to some interesting allocations of costs and fees.

No, "Host Marriott" is not actually Marriott the hotel chain - they're a separate company which owns the Hyatt Regency Maui and I think they've changed their name in the last 7 years to "Host Hotels & Resorts". They also own a wide range of Hyatts, Westins, Ritz Carltons, Marriotts, Four Seasons, etc. (including the Hyatt SFO & Manchester Grand Hyatt among others).

This is going to be a Hyatt time share property called "Hyatt Ka'anapali Beach, a Hyatt Residence Club"

I'm still not 100% clear what the difference between a Hyatt Residence club and Hyatt Vacation club is - does anything know the difference? Is it called a Hyatt Residence Club for the time share owners, and Hyatt Vacation club for people renting nightly rooms at the same property without having fractional ownership?

MSPeconomist Jan 8, 2013 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by oc2005 (Post 20007544)
No, "Host Marriott" is not actually Marriott the hotel chain - they're a separate company which owns the Hyatt Regency Maui and I think they've changed their name in the last 7 years to "Host Hotels & Resorts". They also own a wide range of Hyatts, Westins, Ritz Carltons, Marriotts, Four Seasons, etc. (including the Hyatt SFO & Manchester Grand Hyatt among others).

This is going to be a Hyatt time share property called "Hyatt Ka'anapali Beach, a Hyatt Residence Club"

I'm still not 100% clear what the difference between a Hyatt Residence club and Hyatt Vacation club is - does anything know the difference? Is it called a Hyatt Residence Club for the time share owners, and Hyatt Vacation club for people renting nightly rooms at the same property without having fractional ownership?

Thanks. I saw the word Marriott and was surprised without thinking about what Host Marriott is.

LIH Prem Jan 9, 2013 6:34 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 20005966)
I'm confused: Marriott will be managing a time share property on the premises of a Hyatt? Will the Marriott time share fractional owners be able to use the Hyatt hotel's facilities? This could lead to some interesting allocations of costs and fees.

You didn't read the article in the OP I guess. They explain it all, including the difference between Host Marriott and Marriott and ownership of the Hyatt and who will operate the timeshare property.

-David

Snoopyo Jan 9, 2013 9:32 pm

Hyatt started with timeshare with Sunset Harbour in Key West over 20 years ago using the name Hyatt Vacation club.

With several recent properties being fractionals (multiple weeks sold as 1 package), they are now using the newer term Hyatt Residence club.

Maui broke grounds sometime last fall... I think scheduled for 2014 completion.

Snoopyo Jan 9, 2013 9:39 pm

Some of us HVC/HRC owners have been lobbying for Hyatt to consider letting HVC stay count towards GP Elite qualification for stays and/or nights. Marriott does it from what I heard from someone I know but I might have been mistaking it for Sheraton Vacation Ownership rules since he owns both. At least one of those RC counts stays and/or nights.

Bishope2 Jan 10, 2013 8:41 am

My wife and I love Kaanapali Beach. With the timeshares going in, it is getting crowded. We went there for the first time in 1994. The Whaler and the Kaanapali Alii were the only non hotel properties at the time. The Maui Marriott has been converted into a timehare and then they built two new buildings over the past couple of years. Now, the Hyatt is going to add a timeshare. I have nothing against timeshares. Usually the host property builds a nice unit. The problem is occupancy.

Tne new Hyatt timeshare will have 131 rooms. If that was a hotel, you would have an occupancy of 262 to 524 (2 to 4 per room). Being a timeshare, your looking at 262 to as much a 1048 (2 to 8 per room). Getting a dinner reservation anywhere on Kaanapali Beach is tough now. Add in another 1,000 per night, OUCH!


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