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Old Jan 6, 2022, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by 6r1nch
I was looking for all this hot goss, what are people thinking is going to happen come like Feb 2 if you booked your stay? Have we already "agreed" to pay a resort fee? Do we get our statuses extended or is that partnership going to change? Moreover, isn't Hyatt opening a property/casino on the strip soon with Rio?
My reading of it is that you can get your resort fee waived if you are Gold starting February 1, no matter when you booked it, as long as you booked it directly through MGM Resorts.

Hyatt will be opening at the Rio; however that is a Caesars casino property (as of now, but it is unclear what will happen when it converts to Hyatt). It is also off strip.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by 6r1nch
I was looking for all this hot goss, what are people thinking is going to happen come like Feb 2 if you booked your stay? Have we already "agreed" to pay a resort fee? Do we get our statuses extended or is that partnership going to change? Moreover, isn't Hyatt opening a property/casino on the strip soon with Rio?
Originally Posted by Single_Flyer
My reading of it is that you can get your resort fee waived if you are Gold starting February 1, no matter when you booked it, as long as you booked it directly through MGM Resorts.

Hyatt will be opening at the Rio; however that is a Caesars casino property (as of now, but it is unclear what will happen when it converts to Hyatt). It is also off strip.
Resort fees waived at check in per the terms.

However, deeper reading says that matched status doesn’t get all the benefits if I read that correctly.

I’d definitely like a direct link to MGM to go over everything rather than just a post on another forum.

Side note - Effective 2/1 the “platinum experience” is gone.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 7:04 am
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My guess is that the $10-20 rooms will be disappearing if they dial back on the resort fees. Also, it is important to note that those rates are only available midweek, so you will not be able to book a two week stay for $10/night to earn credits. You will need to physically be in Vegas during the week to check in, so it is not of much use to people living outside of Vegas. They could also dial back on the status matches, especially now that Hyatt is officially in bed with Caesars. Something tells me that this is not nearly the good news that many people are taking it to be, at least not for WOH members who are not gambling addicts.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by Matt4200
Side note - Effective 2/1 the “platinum experience” is gone.
For a short period, whatever that means.

"The Platinum Experience upon check-in at Las Vegas Resorts will be unavailable for a short period of time as we revamp the curated, new and improved Platinum Experience."
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 8:56 am
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I don't trust MGM to honor their terms, as the Vdara changed the rate terms for my last stay in Las Vegas. I am trying to create a trip on the MGM website, and it requires acceptance of the resort fees to book, even with status. I wouldn't put it past them to outright refuse to waive them at check-in. Buyer beware.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by Tino
I don't trust MGM to honor their terms, as the Vdara changed the rate terms for my last stay in Las Vegas. I am trying to create a trip on the MGM website, and it requires acceptance of the resort fees to book, even with status. I wouldn't put it past them to outright refuse to waive them at check-in. Buyer beware.
This may be a situation where you have to manually request the resort fee waiver.

Applicable daily resort fees will be waived on up to two room reservations per trip when an eligible member books direct, under their name, with MGM Resorts International and his/her eligible MGM Rewards account number is attached to such reservations. To redeem, the eligible member may be required to visit the Front Desk during their stay to confirm eligibility and request waiver of the daily resort fee (e.g., if member advances to eligible Tier level during stay). Not applicable to reservations associated with convention, trade show and/or group sales unless billed to the qualifying member.
https://www.mgmresorts.com/en/mgm-re...-benefits.html
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 11:55 am
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Sounds like MGMs program is also sort of headed more in the “milestones” direction for some of the benefits.

I’ve not had any use for staying at MGM hotels but if there turns out to be a very good deal to game the Hyatt program status and benefits by way of the resort fee waiver for MGM elites, I’ll jump on it too.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 12:37 pm
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Also, some of the benefits are only if you earn the status - not have it matched.
  1. One (1) Tier Achievement Celebration Dining Experience benefit valid for qualifying member is offered during the current Tier Status Earning Year to each qualifying Gold, qualifying Platinum or qualifying NOIR member who has earned the minimum Tier Credits associated with reaching the applicable Tier Level (and, for NOIR Tier Level, invited to such level during such Tier Status Earning Period) based on spend during such period. Members who receive their Tier Level status through a third-party or other partnership tier match program are not eligible for the benefit. Dining Experience benefit is not awarded based on a member’s Tier Level status as of the beginning of the Tier Status Earning Year. A qualifying member who reaches multiple eligible Tier Levels during a Tier Status Earning Year as described above will receive one such benefit (awarded as a dining credit) for each such level reached. Amount of dining credit for reaching specific Tier Levels is as follows: up to $100 dining credit for reaching Gold, up to $200 dining credit for reaching Platinum, and up to $500 for reaching (and invited to) NOIR. Dining experience must be booked by qualifying member through designated MGM staff (who will apply applicable dining credit to member’s MGM Rewards account). Dining experience must be completed within twelve (12) months after qualifying for the benefit. Valid only at participating MGM-owned dining outlets. The dining credit cannot be used for gratuities, is non-transferable and cannot be redeemed for cash. To redeem your dining credit, you must present your MGM Rewards card at time of payment. Offer may not be used in conjunction with any other offer. Member will not receive the cash value or be compensated in any manner for any unused dining credit (if any) which will be forfeited if not used during the applicable dining experience. MGM reserves the right to modify the amount of the dining credit offered and/or otherwise modify and/or limit quantity/type of items offered (e.g., alcoholic beverages) all of which may vary based on Tier Level reached and other factors.
  2. One (1) air travel credit benefit of up to $600 is offered during the current Tier Status Earning Year to each qualifying Platinum member who has earned the minimum Tier Credits associated with such Tier Level during such Tier Status Earning Year based on spend during such period. One (1) additional air travel credit benefit of up to $600 is offered during the current Tier Status Earning Year to each qualifying NOIR member who is invited to NOIR Tier Level during such Tier Status Earning Year based on spend (including earning the necessary Tier Credits) during such period. Accordingly, a qualifying member who earns the minimum Tier Credits associated with both Platinum and NOIR Tier Levels (and who is invited to NOIR) during such Tier Status Earning Year is eligible to receive two separate air travel credits of up to $600 each, totaling up to $1,200, subject to these term and conditions and the MGM Rewards Rules. Members who receive their Tier status through a third-party or other partnership tier match program are not eligible for the benefit. Air travel credit is not awarded based on a member’s Tier Level status as of the beginning of the Tier Status Earning Year. Air travel must be booked directly by qualifying member and travel must be completed within twelve (12) months after qualifying for the benefit. Travel itinerary must be in the name of such qualifying member. Air travel credit will be reimbursed based solely on the paid ticket price (including upgrades, but excluding luggage/baggage fees, pet fees, etc.) of the qualifying member’s ticket and of his/her guest(s) reflected on proof of purchase if all on the same single travel itinerary and in the name of such qualifying member. Costs, fees and expenses associated with obtaining and/or using airline points, miles, etc. to obtain air transportation are not eligible for reimbursement. Qualifying members will not receive the difference (if any) between the offered maximum air travel credit amount and the actual paid cost of the ticket(s). Qualifying member must provide designated MGM staff with a copy of receipt and other required documentation at least one week prior to scheduled hotel check-in day. Air travel credit will be awarded in the form of MGM Resorts International resort credit (or as otherwise determined in MGM’s sole discretion) that can only be used during the Las Vegas hotel stay associated with such trip. Resort credits are valid at participating MGM Resorts International destinations in Las Vegas only and can be used for hotel accommodations that are booked directly with MGM Resorts International, and select food and beverage, nightlife/entertainment, retail merchandise, and spa services. Resort credits cannot be used for gratuities and gambling. To redeem your resort credits, you must charge the expense to your room at the outlet or other participating location. Resort credit is non-transferable and cannot be redeemed for cash. Member will not receive the cash value or be compensated in any manner for any unused MGM Resort credits which will be forfeited if not used on trip as set forth herein. Credits must be used prior to guest’s checking out of hotel. Subject to MGM Rewards Program Rules.
  3. One (1) cruise benefit is offered during the current Tier Status Earning Year to each qualifying Platinum or qualifying NOIR members (valid for such qualifying member plus one (1) guest and subject to availability) who has earned the minimum Tier Credits associated with Platinum Tier Level or who is invited to NOIR Tier Level during such Tier Status Earning Year based on spend during such period. Accordingly, a qualifying member who earns the minimum Tier Credits associated with both Platinum and NOIR Tier Levels (and who is invited to NOIR) during such Tier Status Earning Year is eligible to receive both a Platinum and NOIR cruise benefit. Unless otherwise indicated, cruise must be booked during the applicable Tier Status Benefit Year (2/1 – 1/31) for travel completed within three (3) months after such period. Length of cruise and cruise destination will depend upon member’s earned Tier Level status and recent MGM Resorts spend and gaming play. Members are responsible for transportation to/from cruise embarkation and final disembarkation locations. Certain restrictions, fees and limitations apply. Subject to additional terms and conditions available at mgmresorts.com/royalandcelebritycruises.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Tino
I don't trust MGM to honor their terms, as the Vdara changed the rate terms for my last stay in Las Vegas. I am trying to create a trip on the MGM website, and it requires acceptance of the resort fees to book, even with status. I wouldn't put it past them to outright refuse to waive them at check-in. Buyer beware.
This is exactly what I was thinking, I'm looking for a trip in april to vegas and I almost don't want to book it right now because you're agreeing to pay the resort fees when you book. A lot of places will just "give you the pickle" marketing, but resort fees are Vegas' bread and butter. I don't think they're gonna willingly give you back 40%-120% of your room rate that you agreed to pay. In another sense, you're grandfathered into horrible terms.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Tino
I don't trust MGM to honor their terms, as the Vdara changed the rate terms for my last stay in Las Vegas. I am trying to create a trip on the MGM website, and it requires acceptance of the resort fees to book, even with status. I wouldn't put it past them to outright refuse to waive them at check-in. Buyer beware.
Originally Posted by 6r1nch
This is exactly what I was thinking, I'm looking for a trip in april to vegas and I almost don't want to book it right now because you're agreeing to pay the resort fees when you book. A lot of places will just "give you the pickle" marketing, but resort fees are Vegas' bread and butter. I don't think they're gonna willingly give you back 40%-120% of your room rate that you agreed to pay. In another sense, you're grandfathered into horrible terms.
technically you accept the resort fees at the time of booking for Hyatt as well and then it gets taken off at time of checkout.

if it’s like Caesar’s booking system when logged in as a diamond, resort fee will show waived but don’t expect it to happen until after the new program is in place.

As for earned or matched status, I’m expecting resort fee waivers for all and only the celebration dinners and cruises and such are only given for earned members. Just like parking, I would expect matched members to still get parking.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 2:51 pm
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So question...

If I book an MGM property through Hyatt...will I still have to pay a resort fee? Likewise if I book an MGM property through AmEx FHR...will I still pay a resort fee?

Taking a couple cheap Allegiant flights to Vegas throughout the year to earn Hyatt qualifying nights AND get a cheap vacation sounds like a win/win to me if possible!
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Chris2013
So question...

If I book an MGM property through Hyatt...will I still have to pay a resort fee? Likewise if I book an MGM property through AmEx FHR...will I still pay a resort fee?
Unknown at this point.

The T&Cs for this benefit (see link in post #10) say you have to book direct with MGM. Hyatt treats FHR the same as a direct booking, and you get all Hyatt benefits on FHR stays. No way to know for MGM until the new system goes into place and people empirically test it.
Applicable daily resort fees will be waived on up to two room reservations per trip when an eligible member books direct, under their name, with MGM Resorts International and his/her eligible MGM Rewards account number is attached to such reservations. To redeem, the eligible member may be required to visit the Front Desk during their stay to confirm eligibility and request waiver of the daily resort fee (e.g., if member advances to eligible Tier level during stay). Not applicable to reservations associated with convention, trade show and/or group sales unless billed to the qualifying member.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 5:30 pm
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I'm not so sure. If you look at airline loyalty programs, the program you credit to is very much tied into the benefits you get during your trip. It's not exactly the same - but MGM don't have much incentive to pay Hyatt for points and to waive their sizable resort fees.
Yes and no - some programs allow you to double dip.

But - if I'm reading this correctly - hotel spend will now qualify for redeemable points that have actual value. So they are making you choose where you want to get the value - MGM points or Hyatt points. In the past, spend only qualified for tier credits, which had no (redeemable) value, they only counted towards elite status.

Honestly if MGM knows what's good for them, they won't try to make the program this complicated. I have been to Vegas dozens of times, and the front desk agents rarely knew even the most basic details about the existing Mlife program, and nothing about Hyatt except where the membership number should go. Trying to school them on a bunch of intricacies of this program beyond "gold colored card = waive resort fee" would be a disaster.

Separately, according to this article, the main purpose of the program changes is to make it harder to get status:

https://viewfromthewing.com/mgm-reso...lite-benefits/

I think it's pretty crappy that people who earned status last year will not get the new benefits of the program, except for the resort fee waiver, unless/until they earn status for 2023.
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Old Jan 8, 2022, 3:40 pm
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I stayed 50 nights in Caesars properties (Harrahs, Rio, Bally's) in Nov and Dec 2021. I had Diamond status, had done zero gambling for 18 months and never had resort fees charged. My rooms were weekday sun -fri and from $8-$20 a night, sometimes being upgraded to suites. Different program but still Vegas.

Vegas weekends are too expensive so I stay for 8K Hyatt points at either Hyatt Place. The first one was not very nice but it had an airport shuttle if that makes a difference. HP Silverton is about 5 miles south and is very nice (dark wood floors, high ceilings, lots of space etc)
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Old Jan 8, 2022, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Doppy
Unknown at this point.

The T&Cs for this benefit (see link in post #10) say you have to book direct with MGM. Hyatt treats FHR the same as a direct booking, and you get all Hyatt benefits on FHR stays. No way to know for MGM until the new system goes into place and people empirically test it.
I had the same question and can't wait for to get DP on this. I have a prospective booking in April.
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